Author Topic: Alternative futures (Read 2203 times)

Walt Zingmatilder · « **on:** December 26, 2018, 12:33:54 PM »

What will happen in the next few months?

May secures parliamentary support for deal in February
Corbyn taken ill in march
April May heads off confidence vote by calling for Election
Corbyn announces he will not fight the election
Watson takes over as leader of the opposition
Labour majority of 30 seats.

SteveH · « **Reply #1 on:** December 26, 2018, 12:43:27 PM »

Balls - JC4PM.

Dicky Underpants · « **Reply #2 on:** December 28, 2018, 04:07:49 PM »

Quote from: Oliphant Chuckerbutty on December 26, 2018, 12:43:27 PM

Balls - JC4PM.

gawdelpus. As well elect Glanda Mammal.

jeremyp · « **Reply #3 on:** December 29, 2018, 10:29:35 AM »

Quote from: Oliphant Chuckerbutty on December 26, 2018, 12:43:27 PM

Balls - JC4PM.

I will not vote for any party that is not committed to keeping us in the EU (or taking us back in after March).

Roses · « **Reply #4 on:** December 29, 2018, 03:27:53 PM »

Quote from: jeremyp on December 29, 2018, 10:29:35 AM

I will not vote for any party that is not committed to keeping us in the EU (or taking us back in after March).

Sadly neither the Tories or Labour are committed to keeping us in the EU.

SteveH · « **Reply #5 on:** December 29, 2018, 08:23:48 PM »

Quote from: Littleroses on December 29, 2018, 03:27:53 PM

Sadly neither the Tories or Labour are committed to keeping us in the EU.

...so, since I'm never voting Lib Dem again after the great betrayal of May 2010, it must be the Greens next election.

Roses · « **Reply #6 on:** December 30, 2018, 09:02:14 AM »

Quote from: Oliphant Chuckerbutty on December 29, 2018, 08:23:48 PM

...so, since I'm never voting Lib Dem again after the great betrayal of May 2010, it must be the Greens next election.

Same here probably, although they wouldn't be our party of choice. We voted Lib Dem before they went down the tubes.

jeremyp · « **Reply #7 on:** December 30, 2018, 08:00:06 PM »

Quote from: Oliphant Chuckerbutty on December 29, 2018, 08:23:48 PM

...so, since I'm never voting Lib Dem again after the great betrayal of May 2010, it must be the Greens next election.

They didn't betray anybody in 2010.

Walt Zingmatilder · « **Reply #8 on:** December 30, 2018, 08:20:05 PM »

Quote from: jeremyp on December 30, 2018, 08:00:06 PM

They didn't betray anybody in 2010.

Clegg was a mug and Cameron enabler.

jeremyp · « **Reply #9 on:** January 01, 2019, 07:42:23 PM »

Quote from: Phyllis Tyne on December 30, 2018, 08:20:05 PM

Clegg was a mug and Cameron enabler.

20/20 hindsight is a wonderful thing.

SteveH · « **Reply #10 on:** January 01, 2019, 09:46:35 PM »

Quote from: jeremyp on January 01, 2019, 07:42:23 PM

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Clegg was a mug and Cameron enabler.
20/20 hindsight is a wonderful thing.

What's hindsight got to do with it? He took his supposedly leftish party into coalition with the Tories.

Walt Zingmatilder · « **Reply #11 on:** January 02, 2019, 11:00:30 AM »

Quote from: Oliphant Chuckerbutty on January 01, 2019, 09:46:35 PM

20/20 hindsight is a wonderful thing.
What's hindsight got to do with it? He took his supposedly leftish party into coalition with the Tories.

Agreed Ashdown initially thought it was against the Lib Dem grain. At the time, as someone who was a tactical voter and never thought the Lib Dems would go into a coalition, I would have preferred Clegg to have supported the tories on a bill by Bill basis. This would have given them more power over the tories and strangled Austerity IMO. Clegg was mugged by superior Tory oil.

jeremyp · « **Reply #12 on:** January 02, 2019, 11:35:14 AM »

Quote from: Oliphant Chuckerbutty on January 01, 2019, 09:46:35 PM

20/20 hindsight is a wonderful thing.
What's hindsight got to do with it? He took his supposedly leftish party into coalition with the Tories.

Traditionally they are centre left. There was a financial crisis on and the country needed a government. It was an opportunity for the Lib Dems to actually get some things done - or at least that is what they thought. It's all very well sneering t them now, but they did at least try to do something constructive, instead of the juvenile Tory = evil crap.

Walt Zingmatilder · « **Reply #13 on:** January 02, 2019, 03:24:14 PM »

Quote from: jeremyp on January 02, 2019, 11:35:14 AM

Traditionally they are centre left. There was a financial crisis on and the country needed a government. It was an opportunity for the Lib Dems to actually get some things done - or at least that is what they thought. It's all very well sneering t them now, but they did at least try to do something constructive, instead of the juvenile Tory = evil crap.

And we are repenting for Cleggs haste in making sure there was a government at our leisure.

jeremyp · « **Reply #14 on:** January 02, 2019, 03:30:21 PM »

Quote from: Phyllis Tyne on January 02, 2019, 03:24:14 PM

And we are repenting for Cleggs haste in making sure there was a government at our leisure.

As I said, 20/20 hindsight is a wonderful thing.

Walt Zingmatilder · « **Reply #15 on:** January 02, 2019, 03:35:08 PM »

Quote from: jeremyp on January 02, 2019, 03:30:21 PM

As I said, 20/20 hindsight is a wonderful thing.

No I have stated the preference I had prior to coalition. An arrangement that was time honoured and Cameron certainly deserved no better than Heath.
Clegg let me down.

jeremyp · « **Reply #16 on:** January 02, 2019, 03:44:54 PM »

Quote from: Phyllis Tyne on January 02, 2019, 03:35:08 PM

No I have stated the preference I had prior to coalition.

Yeah, right.

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An arrangement that was time honoured and Cameron certainly deserved no better than Heath.
Clegg let me down.

I don't understand what you are trying to say here.

Walt Zingmatilder · « **Reply #17 on:** January 02, 2019, 04:14:04 PM »

Quote from: jeremyp on January 02, 2019, 03:44:54 PM

Yeah, right.
I don't understand what you are trying to say here.

Prior to the coalition governments were maintained as pacts. It kept them on their metal. Heath did not get one even though he was in the midst of a governmental process. Cameron had been a mere PR for Carlton an asset stripping company involved in wrecking Regional TV.
At the very most Clegg should have supported Cameron on a confidence and supply arrangement.

jeremyp · « **Reply #18 on:** January 02, 2019, 07:27:50 PM »

Quote from: Phyllis Tyne on January 02, 2019, 04:14:04 PM

Prior to the coalition governments were maintained as pacts. It kept them on their metal. Heath did not get one even though he was in the midst of a governmental process. Cameron had been a mere PR for Carlton an asset stripping company involved in wrecking Regional TV.
At the very most Clegg should have supported Cameron on a confidence and supply arrangement.

But the agreement they got put their people in government. A pact like the Lib-Lab pact of 1978-79 or the current one with the DUP does not get you ministers.

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