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Walt Zingmatilder

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Is there such a thing as an Atheist community or communities?
« on: January 12, 2019, 08:47:33 AM »
The acknowledgement by RationalWiki of a "Skeptisphere" and the observation of a group called the New Atheists kinda tells us there are but I know some prefer to think there isn't ........although I wonder whether that isn't the character flaw of not wanting to reveal your identity.
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Re: Is there such a thing as an Atheist community or communities?
« Reply #1 on: January 12, 2019, 08:52:14 AM »
Well, of course there is (though I hate that weasel-word "community"). As Jesus didn't quite say, "where two or three are gathered together not in my name, there I'm not amongst them."
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I once tried using "chicken" as a password, but was told it must contain a capital so I tried "chickenkiev"
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Re: Is there such a thing as an Atheist community or communities?
« Reply #2 on: January 12, 2019, 08:57:26 AM »
Well, of course there is (though I hate that weasel-word "community"). As Jesus didn't quite say, "where two or three are gathered together not in my name, there I'm not amongst them."
What has Jesus got to do with atheist communities? Although now you mention it I wonder whether atheists get a warm feeling when they hear the name Dawkins?

So atheists, how do you feel at the name of Dawkins?

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Re: Is there such a thing as an Atheist community or communities?
« Reply #3 on: January 12, 2019, 09:11:36 AM »
So atheists, how do you feel at the name of Dawkins?

I feel nothing in particular, since it isn't my name: I respond differently though when I hear 'Gordon'.

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Re: Is there such a thing as an Atheist community or communities?
« Reply #4 on: January 12, 2019, 09:13:08 AM »
Blimey. I've seen dogs give up on bones more quickly than you do with this topic.

I can't speak for others but I have only ever been to one meeting vaguely connected with the umbrella term you appear to use for anyone who expresses the slightest doubt on the subject of religion. That was for a meeting organised by Skeptics in the pub or some such title.

It was full of what appeared to be generally well-meaning types who would normally be found in the real ale pub it was being held in anyway. Was it a community? Possibly a CAMRA card carrying one.

I never went back, wasn't my thing. The only interaction as an atheist I have is with some of my friends and people on here. So for me, there really isn't one.

I don't rely on Lawrence Krauss or RD or anyone else for my views on atheism. It feels to me internal, I suspect rather like religion does to others. I'm not saying it is a matter of faith, rather that I cannot accept the obvious (to me) failings and flaws in the thoughts of you and others who continue to try to persuade me of the rightness of your cause. I purposely use the word "cause" as you clearly have an agenda to promote.
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Re: Is there such a thing as an Atheist community or communities?
« Reply #5 on: January 12, 2019, 09:14:02 AM »
I feel nothing in particular, since it isn't my name: I respond differently though when I hear 'Gordon'.
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Re: Is there such a thing as an Atheist community or communities?
« Reply #6 on: January 12, 2019, 09:16:30 AM »
Blimey. I've seen dogs give up on bones mare quickly than you do with this topic.

I've just posted this thread!

Thanks for replying Mr T.

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Re: Is there such a thing as an Atheist community or communities?
« Reply #7 on: January 12, 2019, 02:10:05 PM »
I prefer the term "humanist", as being mopre positive - expressing what you're for, not what you're against - and consider myself one, even though I'm a practising anglican (I hope to get the hang of it one day - my standard joke). I am thinking of re-joining 'Humanists UK'.
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I once tried using "chicken" as a password, but was told it must contain a capital so I tried "chickenkiev"
On another occasion, I tried "beefstew", but was told it wasn't stroganoff.

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Re: Is there such a thing as an Atheist community or communities?
« Reply #8 on: January 15, 2019, 03:36:23 PM »
I prefer the term "humanist", as being mopre positive - expressing what you're for, not what you're against - and consider myself one, even though I'm a practising anglican (I hope to get the hang of it one day - my standard joke). I am thinking of re-joining 'Humanists UK'.
But not all atheists are humanists (I'm not a humanist), and not all humanists are atheists (as you have shown) so not sure what point there is in introducing a different term.


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Re: Is there such a thing as an Atheist community or communities?
« Reply #9 on: January 15, 2019, 10:41:22 PM »
But not all atheists are humanists (I'm not a humanist), and not all humanists are atheists (as you have shown) so not sure what point there is in introducing a different term.
Why aren't you a humanist?
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I once tried using "chicken" as a password, but was told it must contain a capital so I tried "chickenkiev"
On another occasion, I tried "beefstew", but was told it wasn't stroganoff.

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Re: Is there such a thing as an Atheist community or communities?
« Reply #10 on: January 16, 2019, 09:07:30 AM »
Why aren't you a humanist?
If we take the most current definition, it's because I'm not a believer in the idea of a world view, I'm not a philosophical naturalist, I'm doubtful of rationality's role in morality as being that clear, and I think it leads to exceptionalism as opposed to other species.

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Re: Is there such a thing as an Atheist community or communities?
« Reply #11 on: January 16, 2019, 05:52:25 PM »
The previously mentioned Matthew Dillahunty belongs to an Atheist community, used to head it up.
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Re: Is there such a thing as an Atheist community or communities?
« Reply #12 on: January 17, 2019, 09:58:10 AM »
The previously mentioned Matthew Dillahunty belongs to an Atheist community, used to head it up.

Yes he was the chairman of the atheist community of Austin (Texas).

It's a phone in show and they take calls mainly from theists.

In the US, it's quite unusual to be open about being an atheist, which looks a bit odd to us, but still enjoyable to watch sometimes.
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Re: Is there such a thing as an Atheist community or communities?
« Reply #13 on: January 17, 2019, 10:22:31 AM »
A polite request: Could someone please add an n in the title to make it an atheist? This will save me having to listen to Synthetic Dave reading it as is which grates on the ears!
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Re: Is there such a thing as an Atheist community or communities?
« Reply #14 on: January 17, 2019, 11:25:22 AM »
Hi Susan

MOD'S VOICE

I have changed that for you. It doesn't change the title within each post that have already been posted, but it changes the title for the thread and the title on any subsequent posts.

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Re: Is there such a thing as an Atheist community or communities?
« Reply #15 on: January 17, 2019, 04:50:28 PM »
Hi Susan

MOD'S VOICE

I have changed that for you. It doesn't change the title within each post that have already been posted, but it changes the title for the thread and the title on any subsequent posts.
Thank you for doing that. I am only affected by the title on the table that is presented when I click on 'Show new posts since ...'
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Re: Is there such a thing as an Atheist community or communities?
« Reply #16 on: January 17, 2019, 08:17:52 PM »
Well, of course there is (though I hate that weasel-word "community"). As Jesus didn't quite say, "where two or three are gathered together not in my name, there I'm not amongst them."

I don't like the idea of a community, can imagine few things worse than being part of a community.
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Re: Is there such a thing as an Atheist community or communities?
« Reply #17 on: January 17, 2019, 08:42:00 PM »
I don't like the idea of a community, can imagine few things worse than being part of a community.
So you have never had a good laugh with friends, and enjoyed it? Because that is a community.

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Re: Is there such a thing as an Atheist community or communities?
« Reply #18 on: January 17, 2019, 10:19:34 PM »
Yes, loosely. I wasn't thinking of community in that way. Being precise, I am biologically part of a community. My colleagues and I work for a particular community, we serve them but are not part of it. What I don't like is the idea of being tied to a group of people with a label. R&E is an online community of which I'm a member but if I stopped posting nobody would come knocking on my door.

Probably not explained very well. Not important anyway.
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Re: Is there such a thing as an Atheist community or communities?
« Reply #19 on: January 18, 2019, 12:08:46 AM »
R&E is an online community of which I'm a member but if I stopped posting nobody would come knocking on my door.


Don't be too sure of that!
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Re: Is there such a thing as an Atheist community or communities?
« Reply #20 on: January 18, 2019, 08:00:34 AM »
So you have never had a good laugh with friends, and enjoyed it? Because that is a community.
No, it isn't - it's a group of friends. "Communities" are always people who take themselves far too seriously.
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Re: Is there such a thing as an Atheist community or communities?
« Reply #21 on: January 18, 2019, 09:02:30 AM »
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"Communities" are always people who take themselves far too seriously.

That seems like a bit of a sweeping statement, given that "communities" is used for such a wide range of disparate groups.

So which take themselves too seriously?


The mining community.
The Iona community.
The scientific community.
The LGBTQ community.
Communities of circumstance.
Communities of interest.
Retirement communities.

.....and on and on.
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Re: Is there such a thing as an Atheist community or communities?
« Reply #22 on: January 18, 2019, 02:23:21 PM »
Is there actually a defined atheist society or organisation in the UK - genuine question as I'm not sure.

There are certainly secular organisations (e.g. NSS) - but secularism does not equal atheism and there are plenty of religious people who believe strongly in secularism.

There are humanist organisations (e.g. BHA) - but again humanism does not equal atheism and there is a strong tradition of religious humanist thinking.

There are sceptic organisations - but again scepticism does not equal atheism (although perhaps most sceptics are atheist) and scepticism extends well beyond the sphere of religion/belief in god.

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Re: Is there such a thing as an Atheist community or communities?
« Reply #23 on: January 18, 2019, 02:38:13 PM »
Before we work on Artificial Intelligence shouldn't we address the problem of natural stupidity.

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Re: Is there such a thing as an Atheist community or communities?
« Reply #24 on: January 18, 2019, 02:40:13 PM »
https://www.atheismuk.com/

Membership, website, meetings, forum .. I'd say it counts as a community.
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