Holocaust Denial

[Roses]

I'm not sure that that was the comparison being made. The post said about Nazi Germany growing out of antisemitism so surely is saying that antisemitism within society allowed the growth of the Nazis. I don't think antisemitism is as common in Britain today as it was in Germany before the growth of the Nazis yet but it could become so if its not addressed. That surely is part of the Warning From History when it comes to the Nazis.

Racism in general needs to be addressed in this country.

[jeremyp]

Well, obviously I was speaking loosely, but they often do so.

How often? I've seen it done, but my experience is that it happens infrequently. You seem to imply it is a tactic more used than not used.

[SteveH]

How often? I've seen it done, but my experience is that it happens infrequently. You seem to imply it is a tactic more used than not used.

I've seen it quite a lot.

[Maeght]

Racism in general needs to be addressed in this country.

Yes it does.

[Nearly Sane]

Yes it does.

How do you suggest?

[Maeght]

How do you suggest?

I don't know.

[Nearly Sane]

I don't know.

If there is a particular problem with racism in the UK today, then we shoud look at how that happened and change it?

[Maeght]

If there is a particular problem with racism in the UK today, then we shoud look at how that happened and change it?

Yes we should.

[Owlswing]

Just how close is the rampant anti-semitism of the Labour Party to Holocaust denial?

[Roses]

Just how close is the rampant anti-semitism of the Labour Party to Holocaust denial?

I am not sure that those accused of anti-semitism are necessarily Holocaust deniers.

[Walter]

I am not sure that those accused of anti-semitism are necessarily Holocaust deniers.

I would agree with that Lr

[SteveH]

Just how close is the rampant anti-semitism of the Labour Party to Holocaust denial?

There is little or no anti-semitism in the Labour party. this is a vile smear by Zionists trying, as ever, to confuse criticism of Israel with anti-semitism, and politicalenemies of Labour, using it as a convenient stick to beat Labour with.

[wigginhall]

Well said, Steve.  I was going to ask for evidence of "rampant" anti-semitism in Labour.

[Gordon]

Moderator:

A derail discussing homosexuality has been removed, especially since the derail included a post that was reported. We'll review the other posts in the derail to determine whether or not they could comprise a separate thread.

[Roses]

Whilst I strongly disapprove of the behaviour of the Israeli Government, it is very wrong to tar all Jews with the same brush. Not all Jews are unpleasant Zionists.

[Owlswing]

I would agree with that Lr

If I said Black was the opposite of White, you would agree with anyone who did not agree with me!

Talk about predictable!

[Aruntraveller]

If I said Black was the opposite of White, you would agree with anyone who did not agree with me!

Talk about predictable!

Not following. Did you say all anti-semites were holocaust deniers? I can't see that you did. So your point above makes no sense.

[jeremyp]

Whilst I strongly disapprove of the behaviour of the Israeli Government, it is very wrong to tar all Jews with the same brush. Not all Jews are unpleasant Zionists.

A Zionist is simply somebody who believes Jews have a right to a homeland in what they call their spiritual home i.e. the Levant. Given that that request has been satisfied, they are effectively just people who do not want Israel to be erased. What is unpleasant about that?

[SteveH]

A Zionist is simply somebody who believes Jews have a right to a homeland in what they call their spiritual home i.e. the Levant. Given that that request has been satisfied, they are effectively just people who do not want Israel to be erased. What is unpleasant about that?

"Unpleasant Zionists" could be seen as a sub-set of all Zionists.

[jeremyp]

"Unpleasant Zionists" could be seen as a sub-set of all Zionists.

Practically any sufficiently large group of people has a subset that is unpleasant. 

[Walter]

If I said Black was the opposite of White, you would agree with anyone who did not agree with me!

Talk about predictable!

Mr Owl,

next time you throw your toys out of your pram you'll have to pick 'em up yourself 

[Owlswing]

Mr Owl,

next time you throw your toys out of your pram you'll have to pick 'em up yourself 

If you think that the post to which the above is a response is "throwing my toys out of the pram" you are sorely mistaken and obviously do not know me as well as you sem to think that you do.

When I last DID throw my toys out of the pram I got banned for a period, the length of which I forget, but I learnt that lesson, and you and your posts are not worth getting Moderated again no matter how witty and clever you might think you are.

Just to make sure I don't get Moderated again, any conversation between me and thee ends here!

[Walter]

If you think that the post to which the above is a response is "throwing my toys out of the pram" you are sorely mistaken and obviously do not know me as well as you sem to think that you do.

When I last DID throw my toys out of the pram I got banned for a period, the length of which I forget, but I learnt that lesson, and you and your posts are not worth getting Moderated again no matter how witty and clever you might think you are.

Just to make sure I don't get Moderated again, any conversation between me and thee ends here!

Mr Owl,

have a nice day sir.

[Owlswing]

Mr Owl,

have a nice day sir.
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[Walter]

Mr Owl,
I have no idea what you are trying to say . Do you want to have another go ?