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Re: First successful UK conviction for Female Genital Mutilation
« Reply #50 on: February 04, 2019, 01:54:00 PM »
Examining children is unnecessary anyway. Teachers, social workers etc. Are trained to spot characteristic changes in children's behaviour suggestive of abuse.
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Re: First successful UK conviction for Female Genital Mutilation
« Reply #51 on: February 04, 2019, 02:04:26 PM »
Quote from: Steve H on February 04, 2019, 01:54:00 PM
Examining children is unnecessary anyway. Teachers, social workers etc. Are trained to spot characteristic changes in children's behaviour suggestive of abuse.

Hmmmmmmmmmmm! That doesn't appear to stop abuse getting missed.
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Re: First successful UK conviction for Female Genital Mutilation
« Reply #52 on: February 04, 2019, 07:14:45 PM »
Quote from: Littleroses on February 04, 2019, 01:31:12 PM
It is done routinely in France, I believe.
Firstly, citation needed.

Secondly they also ban people from wearing certain types of head wear and allow cars to drive on their motorways at the insane speed of 85 mph.

Is the fact that France does something, a good reason for doing it here?


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Re: First successful UK conviction for Female Genital Mutilation
« Reply #53 on: February 04, 2019, 07:16:43 PM »
Quote from: Steve H on February 04, 2019, 01:54:00 PM
Examining children is unnecessary anyway. Teachers, social workers etc. Are trained to spot characteristic changes in children's behaviour suggestive of abuse.
If they were subject to FGM before they come in contact with teachers, the teachers wouldn’t notice. Social workers might, but if it happens early enough in the child’s life, they might not.
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Re: First successful UK conviction for Female Genital Mutilation
« Reply #54 on: February 05, 2019, 08:22:39 PM »
Littleroses attempted to post this link earlier but had an issue with it - so I'm posting it on her behalf. It summarises the approach taken in France and is well worth a read.

http://news.trust.org/item/?map=france-reduces-genital-cutting-with-prevention-prosecutions-lawyer
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Re: First successful UK conviction for Female Genital Mutilation
« Reply #55 on: February 06, 2019, 10:57:51 AM »
Can't see why all children should not be able to have a full medical, physical/mental/developmental review annually. Adults too actually.
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Re: First successful UK conviction for Female Genital Mutilation
« Reply #56 on: February 06, 2019, 11:07:43 AM »
Quote from: Udayana on February 06, 2019, 10:57:51 AM
Can't see why all children should not be able to have a full medical, physical/mental/developmental review annually. Adults too actually.


I think it is necessary for children to have such a review as things, which affect their development can be overlooked.
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Re: First successful UK conviction for Female Genital Mutilation
« Reply #57 on: February 06, 2019, 11:28:21 AM »
Quote from: Udayana on February 06, 2019, 10:57:51 AM
Can't see why all children should not be able to have a full medical, physical/mental/developmental review annually. Adults too actually.
Tooexpensive, too intrusive, not necessary.
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Re: First successful UK conviction for Female Genital Mutilation
« Reply #58 on: February 06, 2019, 11:32:50 AM »
Quote from: Steve H on February 06, 2019, 11:28:21 AM
Tooexpensive, too intrusive, not necessary.

I think it is necessary for all children, too many kids have their problems undetected.
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Re: First successful UK conviction for Female Genital Mutilation
« Reply #59 on: February 06, 2019, 12:12:31 PM »
Quote from: Littleroses on February 06, 2019, 11:32:50 AM
I think it is necessary for all children, too many kids have their problems undetected.
How do you know, if they're undetected?
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Re: First successful UK conviction for Female Genital Mutilation
« Reply #60 on: February 06, 2019, 12:21:13 PM »
Quote from: Steve H on February 06, 2019, 12:12:31 PM
How do you know, if they're undetected?

Oh Steve, do you ever listen to the news?
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Re: First successful UK conviction for Female Genital Mutilation
« Reply #61 on: February 06, 2019, 12:22:56 PM »
Quote from: Littleroses on February 06, 2019, 12:21:13 PM
Oh Steve, do you ever listen to the news?
If abuse is undetected, by definition no-one knows about it. News items are about cases that have been detected.
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Re: First successful UK conviction for Female Genital Mutilation
« Reply #62 on: February 06, 2019, 01:25:08 PM »
Quote from: Steve H on February 06, 2019, 12:22:56 PM
If abuse is undetected, by definition no-one knows about it. News items are about cases that have been detected.

It is undetected until a child is killed or badly injured. That is why routine medical checks on a child should be a legal obligation, which no parent can refuse.
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Re: First successful UK conviction for Female Genital Mutilation
« Reply #63 on: February 14, 2019, 09:04:59 AM »
Coincidentally I had a charity request yesterday from something called 'Womankind Worldwide', about FGM.  I sent them a one off donation and said I would do same again at a later date but don't want to commit to a monthly payment (I would soon be broke if I took out any more subscriptions).

Maybe at a later time I will drop one thing I currently subscribe to and do the monthly 'Womankind' sub. It doesn't feel quite right at the moment but may do in future.

Now I feel bad about talking about money I give - none of which is a fortune - but it's only to you and you don't know me.
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