Author Topic: The ???? Seven (Read 5105 times)

ad_orientem · « **Reply #50 on:** February 19, 2019, 07:13:35 PM »

Sure this is will have a big impact...not. The problem with Labour isn't antisemitism or brexit, but that it ceased to be a true labour movement a long time ago.

Nearly Sane · « **Reply #51 on:** February 19, 2019, 07:18:38 PM »

And after all why would you care about anti semitism.

ad_orientem · « **Reply #52 on:** February 19, 2019, 07:22:05 PM »

Quote from: Nearly Sane on February 19, 2019, 07:18:38 PM

And after all why would you care about anti semitism.

Eh?

Nearly Sane · « **Reply #53 on:** February 19, 2019, 08:11:57 PM »

Quote from: ad_orientem on February 19, 2019, 07:22:05 PM

Eh?

What do you think about Jewish people?

ad_orientem · « **Reply #54 on:** February 19, 2019, 09:02:01 PM »

Quote from: Nearly Sane on February 19, 2019, 08:11:57 PM

What do you think about Jewish people?

Same as any other people, no one people is inherently better or worse than any other. My opinion of Judaism and Israel, however, aren't very high. So what's your point?

ad_orientem · « **Reply #55 on:** February 19, 2019, 09:18:13 PM »

Anyway, you haven't addressed my point as to why the Labour party has lost relevance and why any breakaway is irrelevant until they address that point too.

Nearly Sane · « **Reply #56 on:** February 19, 2019, 09:40:28 PM »

Quote from: ad_orientem on February 19, 2019, 09:02:01 PM

Same as any other people, no one people is inherently better or worse than any other. My opinion of Judaism and Israel, however, aren't very high. So what's your point?

Really? Didn't ask about Judaism or Israel. Tell me about what you think about the Rothschilds.

Nearly Sane · « **Reply #57 on:** February 19, 2019, 09:41:30 PM »

Quote from: ad_orientem on February 19, 2019, 09:18:13 PM

Anyway, you haven't addressed my point as to why the Labour party has lost relevance and why any breakaway is irrelevant until they address that point too.

That was an assertion.

ad_orientem · « **Reply #58 on:** February 19, 2019, 10:37:24 PM »

Quote from: Nearly Sane on February 19, 2019, 09:40:28 PM

Really? Didn't ask about Judaism or Israel. Tell me about what you think about the Rothschilds.

Too much money, too much influence. Now, have you actually got a point? If not, move along, pal. I'm not going to take the bait. You're wasting your time.

Maeght · « **Reply #59 on:** February 19, 2019, 10:39:55 PM »

8 now.

Nearly Sane · « **Reply #60 on:** February 20, 2019, 06:16:57 AM »

Quote from: ad_orientem on February 19, 2019, 10:37:24 PM

Too much money, too much influence. Now, have you actually got a point? If not, move along, pal. I'm not going to take the bait. You're wasting your time.

fair enough

Roses · « **Reply #61 on:** February 20, 2019, 11:17:29 AM »

There are now 11 in the breakaway group, three Tory MPs have joined them, Sarah Wollaston, Heidi Allen and Anna Soubry.

Nearly Sane · « **Reply #62 on:** February 20, 2019, 02:31:31 PM »

I have to say that other than getting publicity I'm failing to se the point of the Indies. I don't understand how you can leave the Labour party, say that you might return, and then work with Tory rebels in the same group.

wigginhall · « **Reply #63 on:** February 20, 2019, 02:41:25 PM »

I think some people will be attracted to them, but in elections they will get flattened by FPTP. And maybe the Tories will win next time.

Nearly Sane · « **Reply #64 on:** February 20, 2019, 02:54:09 PM »

Quote from: wigginhall on February 20, 2019, 02:41:25 PM

I think some people will be attracted to them, but in elections they will get flattened by FPTP. And maybe the Tories will win next time.

Seen some polling which puts them at 14%, which given they aren't a party, and don't have any policies other than having another vote on Brexit is both quite impressive, and a scary comment about UK politics. The predicted outcome on the polling is 364 seats for the Tories.

Walter · « **Reply #65 on:** February 20, 2019, 03:38:57 PM »

Quote from: Nearly Sane on February 20, 2019, 02:54:09 PM

Seen some polling which puts them at 14%, which given they aren't a party, and don't have any policies other than having another vote on Brexit is both quite impressive, and a scary comment about UK politics. The predicted outcome on the polling is 364 seats for the Tories.

well we've all had experience of the polls , to be fair they made a great job of my sisters wet room .

Aruntraveller · « **Reply #66 on:** February 20, 2019, 06:22:54 PM »

Quote from: Walter on February 20, 2019, 03:38:57 PM

well we've all had experience of the polls , to be fair they made a great job of my sisters wet room .

Badum tish.

Nearly Sane · « **Reply #67 on:** February 20, 2019, 06:37:01 PM »

Quote from: Walter on February 20, 2019, 03:38:57 PM

well we've all had experience of the polls , to be fair they made a great job of my sisters wet room .

And to quote Not the Nine O'Clock News 'The only good poll is a deed poll'

Nearly Sane · « **Reply #68 on:** February 20, 2019, 07:12:42 PM »

Quote from: ProfessorDavey on February 18, 2019, 08:35:11 PM

In other news - on the same day that the Labour party lost Chuka Umunna, Chris Leslie, Luciana Berger et al they have apparently just readmitted Derek Hatton - you couldn't make it up.

But not for long

https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/derek-hatton-suspended-labour-party-15861929?fbclid=IwAR3NYd1bHQAe4QLMkHVE6wdQumwut7utkmXmsJt6sRPzpDuilfJlBn-veqk

ad_orientem · « **Reply #69 on:** February 20, 2019, 08:05:24 PM »

Mess of a web page. What was he suspended for?

Nearly Sane · « **Reply #70 on:** February 20, 2019, 08:15:45 PM »

Quote from: ad_orientem on February 20, 2019, 08:05:24 PM

Mess of a web page. What was he suspended for?

Some tweet from 2012.

Anchorman · « **Reply #71 on:** February 20, 2019, 10:17:28 PM »

Quote from: ad_orientem on February 20, 2019, 08:05:24 PM

Mess of a web page. What was he suspended for?

Probably for being Derek Hatton...which is as good a reason as any.

Walt Zingmatilder · « **Reply #72 on:** February 20, 2019, 11:03:34 PM »

Quote from: Anchorman on February 20, 2019, 10:17:28 PM

Probably for being Derek Hatton...which is as good a reason as any.

It is pretty good.

Roses · « **Reply #73 on:** February 22, 2019, 10:43:52 AM »

I see another Labour MP, Ian Austin, has left the party.

jeremyp · « **Reply #74 on:** March 02, 2019, 10:31:10 AM »

Quote from: ad_orientem on February 20, 2019, 08:05:24 PM

Mess of a web page. What was he suspended for?

My Dad’s theory is that he was reinstated because the people who made the decision were not born when he was doing his stuff in Liverpool.

I wasn’t a massive fan of Neil Kinnock but this was magnificent

https://youtu.be/v9d7ahKWcsM

That is true leadership.

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Author Topic: The ???? Seven (Read 5105 times)