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Sri Lanka bombings
« on: April 23, 2019, 10:30:33 AM »



Surprising that no one here is talking about the terrible Sri Lanka church bombings where more than 310 innocent people have been killed on Easter Day.

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« Reply #1 on: April 23, 2019, 10:36:52 AM »
A terrible event which has dominated the BBC news since it occurred.
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« Reply #2 on: April 23, 2019, 02:37:35 PM »


Is it some extreme form of political correctness or just a latent fear that prevents people from talking about it?! 

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« Reply #3 on: April 23, 2019, 02:46:25 PM »

Is it some extreme form of political correctness or just a latent fear that prevents people from talking about it?!

What are you on about? People are taking about it, as it is the top item on our news at present.
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« Reply #4 on: April 23, 2019, 02:51:31 PM »

Is it some extreme form of political correctness or just a latent fear that prevents people from talking about it?!
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« Reply #5 on: April 23, 2019, 04:16:56 PM »


Surprising that no one here is talking about the terrible Sri Lanka church bombings where more than 310 innocent people have been killed on Easter Day.
Well, you could have started the thread yourself instead of derailing this one.
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« Reply #6 on: April 23, 2019, 04:20:45 PM »
I think that Sriram is relating to the situation in India - where he lives. It may be that the relative closeness of India to Sri Lanka, where this latest atrocity occurred, and to Islamic countries like Pakistan may give this event some particular dimension which is not immediately apparent to us. There have been some references in Britain to the Mumbai atrocity of a few years ago.
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« Reply #7 on: April 23, 2019, 05:10:12 PM »



Yes...there does seem to be a contrast in the way western countries/people react to events in the 'western' world (including Australia and New Zealand ....note)  and the events occurring in other countries, particularly the East.  There seems to be a clear indifference to the latter, regardless of the scale of the event.

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« Reply #8 on: April 23, 2019, 05:15:14 PM »


Yes...there does seem to be a contrast in the way western countries/people react to events in the 'western' world (including Australia and New Zealand ....note)  and the events occurring in other countries, particularly the East.  There seems to be a clear indifference to the latter, regardless of the scale of the event.
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« Reply #9 on: April 23, 2019, 06:00:06 PM »
I agree with you , for once .
Try not to make that habitual....... :D
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« Reply #10 on: April 23, 2019, 06:01:49 PM »
Interesting thread on the murders in Sri Lanka which continues to be the lead story on the news.


https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1120649051555409921.html

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« Reply #11 on: April 23, 2019, 06:04:25 PM »
What are you on about? People are taking about it, as it is the top item on our news at present.
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« Reply #12 on: April 23, 2019, 06:07:31 PM »
Yes, but not on here Littlerose.
Which illustrates precisely nothing unless you think that given this is your first comment that it was just showing your 'clear indifference' to it?

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« Reply #13 on: April 23, 2019, 06:10:58 PM »
Which illustrates precisely nothing unless you think that given this is your first comment that it was just showing your 'clear indifference' to it?
I'm not sure it indicates precisely nothing....even the reason that people may have been away on holiday constitutes something.

The question still remains


What has and would be the response if it had been group A, B or C?

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« Reply #14 on: April 23, 2019, 06:18:37 PM »
I'm not sure it indicates precisely nothing....even the reason that people may have been away on holiday constitutes something.

The question still remains


What has and would be the response if it had been group A, B or C?
All that you can take is that until Sriram mentioned it no one else had. There isn't enough and won't be enough information to determine the specifics of this or any general lesson. So in and of itself the lack of comment before Sriram does exactly indicate precisely nothing.

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« Reply #15 on: April 23, 2019, 08:13:26 PM »


Yes...there does seem to be a contrast in the way western countries/people react to events in the 'western' world (including Australia and New Zealand ....note)  and the events occurring in other countries, particularly the East.  There seems to be a clear indifference to the latter, regardless of the scale of the event.

I don't agree. The Sri Lanka massacres have been headline news in the UK for a while. I'd be lying if I said there weren't some stories of the nature of "three British people died in the massacres" etc, but to say we are indifferent is bollocks.
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« Reply #16 on: April 23, 2019, 09:14:08 PM »
I don't agree. The Sri Lanka massacres have been headline news in the UK for a while. I'd be lying if I said there weren't some stories of the nature of "three British people died in the massacres" etc, but to say we are indifferent is bollocks.
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« Reply #17 on: April 24, 2019, 06:38:56 AM »
All that you can take is that until Sriram mentioned it no one else had. There isn't enough and won't be enough information to determine the specifics of this or any general lesson. So in and of itself the lack of comment before Sriram does exactly indicate precisely nothing.


Why don't you add in a few 'fallacies' in my argument, while you are at it...!!!  ::)

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« Reply #18 on: April 24, 2019, 06:39:58 AM »
I agree with you , for once .


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« Reply #19 on: April 24, 2019, 10:05:30 AM »


Surprising that no one here is talking about the terrible Sri Lanka church bombings where more than 310 innocent people have been killed on Easter Day.
These appalling murders took place at three churches, three luxury hotels, plus smaller devices at a guesthouse and a housing complex. Why are you only mentioning the churches Siriam? You accuse us in the west of being indifferent, yet you only mention the attacks on churches.

In my mind the murder of someone attending a church service is no more, nor less, appalling that someone eating breakfast in a hotel.
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« Reply #20 on: April 24, 2019, 11:12:34 AM »
These appalling murders took place at three churches, three luxury hotels, plus smaller devices at a guesthouse and a housing complex. Why are you only mentioning the churches Siriam? You accuse us in the west of being indifferent, yet you only mention the attacks on churches.

In my mind the murder of someone attending a church service is no more, nor less, appalling that someone eating breakfast in a hotel.

TO be fair, I'm sure Sririam was also thinking of those people too, the media here has focussed much more on the Churches than the hotels, I assume because the majority of those killed were in the churches? Probably just an assumption made on his part that he was including all those slaughtered. It's how I read it anyway.

Your posting strikes me as a bit of nit-pickery.
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« Reply #21 on: April 24, 2019, 11:23:35 AM »
who's this 'we' you refer to?
The British. Why? Are you claiming you are indifferent?
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« Reply #22 on: April 24, 2019, 11:24:42 AM »
TO be fair, I'm sure Sririam was also thinking of those people too, the media here has focussed much more on the Churches than the hotels, I assume because the majority of those killed were in the churches? Probably just an assumption made on his part that he was including all those slaughtered. It's how I read it anyway.

Your posting strikes me as a bit of nit-pickery.
The media here has focussed on both. I'm not sure what proportion of the deaths were from the hotels vs the church attacks, and I don't see why this matters. People were murdered at both and each murder is an individual tragedy.

I'm not being nit-picking, but there is a kind of perception amongst some (including in the media) that somehow murdering someone in church on Easter Sunday is worse than murdering someone in a hotel - I don't agree with that. And this nods to the 'hierarchy of victims' trope - most often seen regarding nationalities - in that one Brit is worth 5 non-brit europeans, worth 100 africans etc. Now this is actually at the heart of Siriam's point, yet he (as it appears to me) falls into a similar trap by implying (whether deliberately or through carelessness) that the bombings and the victims were exclusively churches/churchgoers.
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« Reply #23 on: April 24, 2019, 11:51:22 AM »
The whether the victims were in church, hotels, or anywhere else, their deaths are equally appalling.
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« Reply #24 on: April 24, 2019, 11:54:24 AM »
The whether the victims were in church, hotels, or anywhere else, their deaths are equally appalling.
Agreed