End of life, or live forever!

[Roses]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m0004hqk


I have just watched this documentary with Miriam Margolyes. The Americans who think it will be possible to physically live forever are bonkers, imo. But see what you think.

[Walter]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m0004hqk


I have just watched this documentary with Miriam Margolyes. The Americans who think it will be possible to physically live forever are bonkers, imo. But see what you think.

sorry but that's a bit too much like homework for me thanks 

[Sriram]

The only way we can live forever is by...killing ourselves! 

[Roses]

The only way we can live forever is by...killing ourselves!

Ehhhhhhhhhh?

[Walter]

Ehhhhhhhhhh?

a mind in conflict with its self ,LR . but not that surprising really .

unless it was an attempt at humour ?

[Sriram]

The only way we can live forever is by...killing ourselves!

That is the essence of spirituality.  I of course, didn't expect anyone here to understand THAT! 

[BeRational]

That is the essence of spirituality.  I of course, didn't expect anyone here to understand THAT! 

Being dead is your idea of spiritual?

[Sriram]

   Well...one part dies and another part awakens and blossoms! 

[Stranger]

  Well...one part dies and another part awakens and blossoms! 

More from Sriram's personal fantasy world...     

[BeRational]

  Well...one part dies and another part awakens and blossoms!

How do you know this?
Can you demonstrare this is is it just a daft assertion?

[Sriram]

You guys seem so scared of such concepts..its remarkable!    You people are so quick to get together and laugh it off...!

People can only demonstrate what I am saying, to themselves. But certain objective techniques and methods are prescribed after following which (for a few years at least) you could get an idea of what I am talking about. Not otherwise.

[SusanDoris]

You guys seem so scared of such concepts..its remarkable!    You people are so quick to get together and laugh it off...!

People can only demonstrate what I am saying, to themselves. But certain objective techniques and methods are prescribed after following which (for a few years at least) you could get an idea of what I am talking about. Not otherwise.

What do you think will happen to all those souls existing for ever when the sun turns this planet into a place unsuitable for life and then our galaxy collapses into a black hole?

[Stranger]

You guys seem so scared of such concepts..its remarkable! 

I have no idea why you think anybody is (or would be) scared of your baseless and rather silly assertions.

You people are so quick to get together and laugh it off...!

Your naivety, overly credulous attitude to woo, and especially your multiple misunderstandings, are actually rather funny.

People can only demonstrate what I am saying, to themselves. But certain objective techniques and methods are prescribed after following which (for a few years at least) you could get an idea of what I am talking about. Not otherwise.

"If you really, really try hard to take this seriously, you'll end up taking it seriously."   

[Sriram]

Well...what are all you 'atheist' guys doing on a Religion board......throwing scorn and ridicule...at religious and spiritual discussions??!!   You are obviously trying to  draw solace from repeated reiteration of your 'beliefs'.

[Roses]

Well...what are all you 'atheist' guys doing on a Religion board......throwing scorn and ridicule...at religious and spiritual discussions??!!   You are obviously trying to  draw solace from repeated reiteration of your 'beliefs'.

Posters are going to pour scorn on your comments when you make crazy statements, like, The only way we can live forever is by...killing ourselves! 

[Enki]

Well...what are all you 'atheist' guys doing on a Religion board......throwing scorn and ridicule...at religious and spiritual discussions??!!   You are obviously trying to  draw solace from repeated reiteration of your 'beliefs'.

Speaking only for myself, I do find some of your ideas entertaining if, somewhat misguided.

I am still on this board as a direct result of being on the BBC equivalent before it disappeared. I found it fascinating to read other people's points of view about all sorts of things(including yours, Sriram). I don't believe in cutting oneself off from awkward questioning or challenges to one's own point of view. In my case, I think that this is one way in which one can develop one's mind and thinking processes. As far as your idea of 'scorn and ridicule' are concerned, the only views I express are the views I hold, sometimes in direct contrast to yours. If you view such criticism(e.g. post 8 on your latest 'religion and spirituality' thread) as being scornful or trying to ridicule you, then so be it, but You are wrong. They are as open and as honest appraisal of what I think as the ideas that you produce.

As regards your idea that I am drawing 'solace'from a 'repeated  reiteration' of my beliefs(or lack of them), I don't think so. The same accusation can  be leveled at you, of course. E.g. just read Bramble's reply 9 on the 'Re Religion & Spirituality Thread' which you started.

[Stranger]

Well...what are all you 'atheist' guys doing on a Religion board......throwing scorn and ridicule...at religious and spiritual discussions??!!   You are obviously trying to  draw solace from repeated reiteration of your 'beliefs'.

Pots and kettles spring unbidden to mind. You are not in a good place to criticise others for repeated reiteration of beliefs, and you've devoted entire blog posts to attempting to belittle those you disagree with.

Why do atheists come to religion boards to criticise? I can only speak for myself, but I suspect it's for the same reason religious people do: to get their message across. Your particular beliefs may be (mostly) harmless fantasies, but the notion that we can ignore critical thinking, rationality, and evidence in reaching conclusions about the world, is worrying to say the least. I am here, in part, to challenge that way of thinking.

There are other reasons, of course, for example, some posts are interesting, challenging, or informative (and not always from people who I agree with).

[Maeght]

Well...what are all you 'atheist' guys doing on a Religion board......throwing scorn and ridicule...at religious and spiritual discussions??!!   You are obviously trying to  draw solace from repeated reiteration of your 'beliefs'.

Many of your posts talk about spiritual people being  more developed than those who aren't, that non spiritual people think microscopically, or within boxes and other such phrases. You post that atheists are limited in thinking. You repeatedly repost your beliefs. Pot, kettle, black.

[Aruntraveller]

Well...what are all you 'atheist' guys doing on a Religion board......throwing scorn and ridicule...at religious and spiritual discussions??!!   You are obviously trying to  draw solace from repeated reiteration of your 'beliefs'.

You seem to be missing the point of Discussion Boards.

[Sriram]

Many of your posts talk about spiritual people being  more developed than those who aren't, that non spiritual people think microscopically, or within boxes and other such phrases. You post that atheists are limited in thinking. You repeatedly repost your beliefs. Pot, kettle, black.

Well...no! People who believe in spirituality or religious matters need not be more developed than atheists.  It depends on our intent and attitude.

[Maeght]

Well...no! People who believe in spirituality or religious matters need not be more developed than atheists.  It depends on our intent and attitude.

So why do you keep posting as if they are?

[Sriram]

You just can't understand...that is all!   You have your preconceived ideas of Abrahamic religions and their views of atheists....and you keep unloading that baggage on to everything. 

[Walter]

You just can't understand...that is all!   You have your preconceived ideas of Abrahamic religions and their views of atheists....and you keep unloading that baggage on to everything.

I'm pretty sure that sentence meant something to you when you typed it

[Sebastian Toe]

I'm pretty sure that sentence meant something to you when you typed it

...I'm not as sure as you are about that!

[Dicky Underpants]

The only way we can live forever is by...killing ourselves!

By which I suppose you mean we should recognise the 'illusory nature of the ego, and lose ourselves in the omnipresent Brahman'? The ego, however, has a very important function, and allows us to perform everyday tasks and also to relate to phenomena in the everyday world - including other people. It is unfortunate that some of the most gifted humans - who have contributed enormously to general human welfare - have had enormous egos (and then of course there's Donald Trump - I'm not saying this is a sine qua non).
Likewise, those with a reputation for 'saintliness' i.e. losing themselves in a bliss of oceanic feeling, have often been bloody useless and a liability.
Some western pundits have equated these two ways of looking at the world with 'left-brain' and 'right-brain' consciousness (the left being more ego-centred). The ideal would be to co-ordinate both.
But maybe you didn't mean anything like this, and I'm just waffling (I hear a thousand voices crying "True!")

Maybe you could explain more clearly what you did mean.....