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Re: Religion Instinct?!
« Reply #250 on: August 01, 2019, 11:01:17 AM »
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The spirit of Wilde posts

Actually i thought it was rather witty, but that's just me I guess.
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Re: Religion Instinct?!
« Reply #251 on: August 01, 2019, 11:14:07 AM »
NS,

Happy to withdraw it - again though, having corrected a misrepresentation twice only to have it repeated twice (one time it seems subsequently withdrawn) do you not think it reasonable to think someone to be acting dishonestly? How about three times? 30 times? 

If you want to say "And I think you need to consider the worth of your frequent attempts at the imputing of motives" then we need to be clear that I do it only after several attempts at non-motive based rebuttals that have been ignored.

No, I don't think it's reasonable, and given you were wrong here, that underlines it.

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Re: Religion Instinct?!
« Reply #252 on: August 01, 2019, 11:15:30 AM »
NS,

Actually i thought it was rather witty, but that's just me I guess.
If you like jejune sexist and gender based humour, then I am sure it would have provided a chortle.

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Re: Religion Instinct?!
« Reply #253 on: August 01, 2019, 11:49:07 AM »
If you like jejune sexist and gender based humour, then I am sure it would have provided a chortle.
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just so's you know I prefer the bandolier style .
It leaves your arms and hands free for putting on lipstick 😘

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Re: Religion Instinct?!
« Reply #254 on: August 01, 2019, 12:03:50 PM »
NS

just so's you know I prefer the bandolier style .
It leaves your arms and hands free for putting on lipstick 😘


My scarlet lips need no artificial burnishment.

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Re: Religion Instinct?!
« Reply #255 on: August 01, 2019, 12:34:33 PM »

My scarlet lips need no artificial burnishment.
luscious , I imagine 💋

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Re: Religion Instinct?!
« Reply #256 on: August 01, 2019, 01:57:41 PM »
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No, I don't think it's reasonable, and given you were wrong here, that underlines it.

Doesn’t work though. Imagine you were to post, say, “you said the moon is made of cream cheese”. I replied that I’d done no such thing and invited you to identify where I’d said it and, in reply, you just repeated “you said the moon is made of cream cheese”. And let’s say that this exchange happened several times.

And then let’s say that eventually I said “you’re fibbing then” and you answered that I was wrong about that. Then what? All I’d have would be your assertion that you weren’t fibbing on the one hand, and evidence of your repeated untruth despite being corrected on the other. Either no-one could ever be accused of fibbing (because they’d just say “no I wasn’t”) or they can be when the multiplicity of the untruth is big enough. If you think the former, fair enough; if not though then where would you draw the line?     
   
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If you like jejune sexist and gender based humour, then I am sure it would have provided a chortle.

Oh give your head a wobble willya? “…jejune sexist and gender based humour” in response to Walter’s mild Hinge & Brackett type imagery is going it a bit don’t you think?
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Re: Religion Instinct?!
« Reply #257 on: August 01, 2019, 02:22:34 PM »
NS,

Doesn’t work though. Imagine you were to post, say, “you said the moon is made of cream cheese”. I replied that I’d done no such thing and invited you to identify where I’d said it and, in reply, you just repeated “you said the moon is made of cream cheese”. And let’s say that this exchange happened several times.

And then let’s say that eventually I said “you’re fibbing then” and you answered that I was wrong about that. Then what? All I’d have would be your assertion that you weren’t fibbing on the one hand, and evidence of your repeated untruth despite being corrected on the other. Either no-one could ever be accused of fibbing (because they’d just say “no I wasn’t”) or they can be when the multiplicity of the untruth is big enough. If you think the former, fair enough; if not though then where would you draw the line?     
   
Oh give your head a wobble willya? “…jejune sexist and gender based humour” in response to Walter’s mild Hinge & Brackett type imagery is going it a bit don’t you think?
So when you withdrew the accusation of lying, you were lying.

That you find sexist gender humour funny is obviously your business.

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Re: Religion Instinct?!
« Reply #258 on: August 01, 2019, 02:23:43 PM »
luscious , I imagine 💋
You would struggle not to drown in their lusciousness. Passing a mirror is a real challenge.

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Re: Religion Instinct?!
« Reply #259 on: August 01, 2019, 02:33:55 PM »
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So when you withdrew the accusation of lying, you were lying.

No, just giving you the benefit of the doubt is all. More to the point though, do you think an accusation of lying is ever possible no matter how strong the evidence for it when the accused merely has to say “no I wasn’t” to rebut it?

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That you find sexist gender humour funny is obviously your business.

“Sexist gender humour eh”? Well, I was going to tell you a joke about a chicken crossing a road but as I don’t want you to think of me of indulging in accident-based anti-poultryism I guess I’d better not.   
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Re: Religion Instinct?!
« Reply #260 on: August 01, 2019, 02:39:16 PM »
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You would struggle not to drown in their lusciousness. Passing a mirror is a real challenge.

Typical stereotypical, anti positive body image-based humour then...   
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Re: Religion Instinct?!
« Reply #261 on: August 01, 2019, 02:56:51 PM »
NS,

Typical stereotypical, anti positive body image-based humour then...
Indeed - you must find it hilarious

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Re: Religion Instinct?!
« Reply #262 on: August 01, 2019, 02:58:41 PM »
NS,

No, just giving you the benefit of the doubt is all. More to the point though, do you think an accusation of lying is ever possible no matter how strong the evidence for it when the accused merely has to say “no I wasn’t” to rebut it?

“Sexist gender humour eh”? Well, I was going to tell you a joke about a chicken crossing a road but as I don’t want you to think of me of indulging in accident-based anti-poultryism I guess I’d better not.   

So you didn't withdraw it. That's ok.

Nice to know that you think sexist humour is the same as talking about chickens.

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Re: Religion Instinct?!
« Reply #263 on: August 01, 2019, 03:12:39 PM »
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Indeed - you must find it hilarious

It was your “joke” remember?

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So you didn't withdraw it. That's ok.

Nice non sequitur – there’s no “so” about it. I withdrew it because I gave you the benefit of the doubt and accepted your assertion that you weren’t fibbing. No lying was necessary for me to do that. Whether in your head you actually were fibbing though is knowable only to you.

More to the point, the question you’ve avoided twice now concerns whether even in principle an accusation of lying can ever be made given that your defence of “no I wasn’t” seems to be sufficient to get you off the hook.

If you don’t want to reply to that though, that’s up to you.   

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Nice to know that you think sexist humour is the same as talking about chickens.

More head wobbling needed I think. Not sure why you’re so against equating animal rights with human rights even in principle, but perhaps some Peter Singer would change your mind:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Singer
 

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Re: Religion Instinct?!
« Reply #264 on: August 01, 2019, 03:15:09 PM »
NS,

It was your “joke” remember?

Nice non sequitur – there’s no “so” about it. I withdrew it because I gave you the benefit of the doubt and accepted your assertion that you weren’t fibbing. No lying was necessary for me to do that. Whether in your head you actually were fibbing though is knowable only to you.

More to the point, the question you’ve avoided twice now concerns whether even in principle an accusation of lying can ever be made given that your defence of “no I wasn’t” seems to be sufficient to get you off the hook.

If you don’t want to reply to that though, that’s up to you.   

More head wobbling needed I think. Not sure why you’re so against equating animal rights with human rights even in principle, but perhaps some Peter Singer would change your mind:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Singer

So you think women are chickens.

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Re: Religion Instinct?!
« Reply #265 on: August 01, 2019, 03:21:21 PM »
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So you think women are chickens.

I takes some effort to construct a sentence in which the "so", the "you think" and the "women are chickens" are all so self-evidently wrong.

By all means though have a go at identifying where I implied any such thing.

Oh, and I take it then that your continued silence on the lying question means you have no intention of answering it. Fair enough. 
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Re: Religion Instinct?!
« Reply #266 on: August 01, 2019, 03:31:43 PM »
NS,

I takes some effort to construct a sentence in which the "so", the "you think" and the "women are chickens" are all so self-evidently wrong.

By all means though have a go at identifying where I implied any such thing.

Oh, and I take it then that your continued silence on the lying question means you have no intention of answering it. Fair enough.

You love the assumptions. I don't think you have asked any coherent question on lying that isn't already answered.

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Re: Religion Instinct?!
« Reply #267 on: August 01, 2019, 03:44:16 PM »
Don't you just love it when a rail gets dethreaded ?!?!
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Re: Religion Instinct?!
« Reply #268 on: August 01, 2019, 04:04:31 PM »
Don't you just love it when a rail gets dethreaded ?!?!
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Well, it raises a smile and is something  which is more interesting to read than most of the topics on GH at the moment!
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« Reply #269 on: August 01, 2019, 10:19:26 PM »
  The spirit of Wilde posts
jeez , it was a gag !!!!!

I've only just realised

hahaha not bad  :)

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Re: Religion Instinct?!
« Reply #270 on: August 01, 2019, 10:39:10 PM »
Don't miss NEWSNIGHT tonight ,
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Re: Religion Instinct?!
« Reply #271 on: August 03, 2019, 02:14:04 PM »
Well, it raises a smile and is something  which is more interesting to read than most of the topics on GH at the moment!

The only written English I have to use was self taught having said that I find this derail enjoyable too S D, I've always thought those inclined toward being a written English pedant will meet their match in the end and get their comeuppance.

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