MP Mark Field accused of assaulting Greenpeace activist

[Nearly Sane]

Apparently he was scared she was armed!!!


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-48714864

[jeremyp]

Apparently he was scared she was armed!!!


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-48714864

She wasn't supposed to be there. He ejected her.

Don't see any problem with that.

[Nearly Sane]

She wasn't supposed to be there. He ejected her.

Don't see any problem with that.

With excessive force

[Enki]

Apparently he was scared she was armed!!!


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-48714864

That would probably have been my feeling too at that particular instant,, (or that she was carrying something dangerous) given some of the events which have happened recently.

Far more worrying to my mind is how these people were allowed to gatecrash this event without being challenged.

[Nearly Sane]

That would probably have been my feeling too at that particular instant,, (or that she was carrying something dangerous) given some of the events which have happened recently.

Far more worrying to my mind is how these people were allowed to gatecrash this event without being challenged.

He slams a small women against a pillar and then chokeholds her and pushes her out. There is no evidence or indication of a threat. It's assault. And I see he's been dropped as a govt minister - good. I hope he is charged

[Enki]

He slams a small women against a pillar and then chokeholds her and pushes her out. There is no evidence or indication of a threat. It's assault. And I see he's been dropped as a govt minister - good. I hope he is charged

You suggested that he was scared she was armed. My response was in answer to that statement.I didn't mention anything about how he reacted at all so I'm not sure why you have brought this up as a response to what I've said??

[ProfessorDavey]

She wasn't supposed to be there. He ejected her.

Don't see any problem with that.

Regardless of whether someone is supposed to be in a place that gives no right for them to be ejected using excessive force, which Mark Field clearly did in my view having watched the clip.

[Walter]

Regardless of whether someone is supposed to be in a place that gives no right for them to be ejected using excessive force, which Mark Field clearly did in my view having watched the clip.

We must be viewing different images , what did you look at . Are we commenting on the same video ?

[Nearly Sane]

You suggested that he was scared she was armed. My response was in answer to that statement.I didn't mention anything about how he reacted at all so I'm not sure why you have brought this up as a response to what I've said??

No, it was his claim which I used in the OP. Your comment read as if you thought his actions were justified. Hence my reply.

[Nearly Sane]

We must be viewing different images , what did you look at . Are we commenting on the same video ?

Say your daughter was in a protest, would you be happy if a man considerably larger than her did that?

[Walter]

He slams a small women against a pillar and then chokeholds her and pushes her out. There is no evidence or indication of a threat. It's assault. And I see he's been dropped as a govt minister - good. I hope he is charged

are you for real?

[Nearly Sane]

are you for real?

You want to ignore facts?

[Walter]

You want to ignore facts?

you want to willfully and foolishly ignore context?

[ProfessorDavey]

We must be viewing different images , what did you look at . Are we commenting on the same video ?

I'm looking at the video in the link from the OP. What I see is:

1. A slightly built woman wearing a shoulder less red dress (hard to conceal a weapon) and carrying a mobile phone walk behind the seated people next to the wall.

2. Mark Field wheels round and grabs her by the throat and rams her against the pillar.

3. He turns her round still grabbing her by the neck and forces her away from the area.

Completely inappropriate behaviour. What do you see Walter?

Look at him - he is angry, he is pumped up, red faced. He isn't acting calmly and appropriately - he has lost it. Worth having a look at the table - all cleared after the dinner has finished (ready for after dinner speaker Hammond) but plenty of wine glasses in view. Suspect Field had had a few prior to this incident.

[Walter]

Say your daughter was in a protest, would you be happy if a man considerably larger than her did that?

It is very unwise to make reference to my daughter in this thread.

[Nearly Sane]

you want to willfully and foolishly ignore context?

What context justifies that? Again if it had been your daughter peacefully protesting and some much larger bloke did that to her, what would be your reaction?

[Nearly Sane]

It is very unwise to make reference to my daughter in this thread.

Why?

[Walter]

I'm looking at the video in the link from the OP. What I see is:

1. A slightly built woman wearing a shoulder less red dress (hard to conceal a weapon) and carrying a mobile phone walk behind the seated people next to the wall.

2. Mark Field wheels round and grabs her by the throat and rams her against the pillar.

3. He turns her round still grabbing her by the neck and forces her away from the area.

Completely inappropriate behaviour. What do you see Walter?

Look at him - he is angry, he is pumped up, red faced. He isn't acting calmly and appropriately - he has lost it. Worth having a look at the table - all cleared after the dinner has finished (ready for after dinner speaker Hammond) but plenty of wine glasses in view. Suspect Field had had a few prior to this incident.

She deserves everything she got and I saw what you saw.

[Nearly Sane]

She deserves everything she got and I saw what you saw.

That's because you support violence against women

[ProfessorDavey]

She deserves everything she got and I saw what you saw.

Are you really saying that someone protesting in a completely non violent manner deserves to be, in effect, assaulted!?!

[Walter]

Why?

you are attempting to invoke an emotional response from me using my daughter as an instrument and that is wrong and cheep .

You may or may not remember a couple of years ago when I posted that my daughter and her colleges were terrified by an intruder at her workplace which resulted in an evacuation of the building .
No one at the time knew they were not in danger however the reaction was  the same.

Perhaps if someone had jumped up and restrained the intruder before he could do any damage then she and her colleagues may not have been so distressed 

[Walter]

That's because you support violence against women

thanks for informing me , I wasn't aware of that .

[Walter]

Are you really saying that someone protesting in a completely non violent manner deserves to be, in effect, assaulted!?!

I do hope you don't think you hold the 'moral high ground' Prof

[SusanDoris]

Ffrom what I have heard, not seen of course, on Radio 4, I think I'm on the MP's side. The woman was an intruder, who had got past security presumably, and, whether  or not she was dressed to make it look as if she was not an intruder, she should not have been there.

[ProfessorDavey]

you want to willfully and foolishly ignore context?

I'm not ignoring the context that the guests at the event are likely to have been drinking throughout the pre-dinner drinks reception and through three courses prior to the speech.

Look at Field's body language and face - he isn't a man in control of his actions, he is furious and angry and very likely drunk.