The prince and the paedophile

[Nearly Sane]

Andrew has brought the monarchy into disrepute and should step down from public life, imo.

Think it needs properly investigated by the police. Your suggestion above just sounds like a cover up

[Roses]

Think it needs properly investigated by the police. Your suggestion above just sounds like a cover up

If the police aren't looking into it, they should be doing so. No Royal should be above the law of the land.

[wigginhall]

I had to laugh at the story about eating pizza.   As wags are saying, no, I don't remember seeing young girls in the house, but I remember how good that pizza tasted in Woking.  I can recommend Pizza Express.

Another journalist joke, we have to posthumously forgive Diana, she only did the second worst royal interview in history.

[Anchorman]

Andrew has brought the monarchy into disrepute and should step down from public life, imo.

     





Nope.
He's simply scraped the veneer of the bling and returned this less than respectable shower tothe time of their disreputable Hanovarian ancestors.

[Roses]

I view the Queen in high esteem, she has done very good job for this country.

[Aruntraveller]

I view the Queen in high esteem, she has done very good job for this country.

Am I missing something here?

Isn't Andrew the Queens son?

Does she hold no responsibility for the way he turned out?

[Anchorman]

I view the Queen in high esteem, she has done very good job for this country.

   
Oh, dear.
 

Her favourite sprog showed last night why bowihng and scraping to someone because mummy and daddy had sex in the right bed is simply daft.

[Roses]

   
Oh, dear.
 

Her favourite sprog showed last night why bowihng and scraping to someone because mummy and daddy had sex in the right bed is simply daft.

What a daft comment!

[Aruntraveller]

What a daft comment!

I'll say this for you, you certainly know how to bring out my republican tendencies!

[Nearly Sane]

What a daft comment!

Would you go to someone to have your teeth fixed because their mother was a dentist?

[Roses]

Quite frankly I really don't know what you lot are on about. Andrew is an stupid idiot and if he did sexually molest that girl he should be prosecuted.

[SweetPea]

And one of those times when a bad offense is an awful defense


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-50446392/prince-andrew-on-epstein-there-was-no-indication

Paraphrasing but "A toe massage,me? Really?"..... "A playboy when I was younger? Where on earth did that idea come form?"

If he is so sure of his innocence why isn't he suing?

Cringe, cringe and more cringe….

[SteveH]

Am I missing something here?

Isn't Andrew the Queens son?

Does she hold no responsibility for the way he turned out?

Not necessarily, no. Andrew is an adult, who made his own decisions.

[Anchorman]

What a daft comment!

 

In what way?
Why is Elizabeth not the3 second wortthy od deferenxce, elevation, rank, style, title or worship by the gullable?
Why is she 'queen', if not by result of her mummy and daddy having sex in the right bed?

[Roses]

 

In what way?
Why is Elizabeth not the3 second wortthy od deferenxce, elevation, rank, style, title or worship by the gullable?
Why is she 'queen', if not by result of her mummy and daddy having sex in the right bed?

I still have no idea what you are on about. I have said my say and won't post on this thread again, so don't bother to reply.

[Anchorman]

I still have no idea what you are on about. I have said my say and won't post on this thread again, so don't bother to reply.

   


Ah....so, no answer, then.
What a surprise.
No-one with half a brain defers to someone because of genetics, surely?

[Nearly Sane]

Various statements from journalists that they sat on the story due to threats from the Palace. Deeply disturbing if true.

[Gordon]

The exploits of this arsehole illustrate why we should be rid of the anachronistic and distasteful monarchy, along with all their aristocratic hangers-on.

[Nearly Sane]

This


https://www.heraldscotland.com/opinion/18042832.kirsty-strickland-prince-andrews-car-crash-interview-exposes-fault-line-britains-power-structures/

[Aruntraveller]

This


https://www.heraldscotland.com/opinion/18042832.kirsty-strickland-prince-andrews-car-crash-interview-exposes-fault-line-britains-power-structures/

A good article. How anyone can believe Prince Andrew, and by extension give the benefit of the doubt to the creaking institution that is the monarchy, is beyond me.

[jeremyp]

Isn't Andrew the Queens son?

Does she hold no responsibility for the way he turned out?

In law we generally don't hold people responsible for what their relatives do. Even Brady and Hindley's parents didn't face trial from bringing up murderers.

[Outrider]

The exploits of this arsehole illustrate why we should be rid of the anachronistic and distasteful monarchy, along with all their aristocratic hangers-on.

Unless you can somehow demonstrate that this arsehole (no argument with that characterisation, by the way) is the arsehole he is specifically because of his status within the monarchy and not, say, the sort of embedded privelege that gives us the similarly rectally-infused Boris Johnson, then it's not an argument against the monarchy per se.

I think there are enough arguments against the monarchy in its own right without trying to lump this particular vomit-inducing incident to the mix.

O.

[Gordon]

Unless you can somehow demonstrate that this arsehole (no argument with that characterisation, by the way) is the arsehole he is specifically because of his status within the monarchy and not, say, the sort of embedded privelege that gives us the similarly rectally-infused Boris Johnson, then it's not an argument against the monarchy per se.

I think there are enough arguments against the monarchy in its own right without trying to lump this particular vomit-inducing incident to the mix.

O.

Indeed, which is why I used the term 'illustrates': had this particular arsehole not been a member of the monarchy, and did not have the profile that accompanies that status, then we would treat him as any other common or garden arsehole would be treated.

His reputation for self-aggrandisement, and as 'air-miles Andy', is well known and he was described on R4 earlier, by a journalist who had personally interviewed him, as being not the sharpest chisel in the tool-box and one who over-estimates his intellect, which suggests he would make a great Dunning-Kruger case study. My point being that this arsehole does seem of limited ability yet he has enjoyed life-long status and privilege simply because of who his mother is, which for me illustrates just one example of why the monarchy is offensively dysfunctional and needs to be dispensed with.     

[jeremyp]

Indeed, which is why I used the term 'illustrates': had this particular arsehole not been a member of the monarchy, and did not have the profile that accompanies that status, then we would treat him as any other common or garden arsehole would be treated.

His reputation for self-aggrandisement, and as 'air-miles Andy', is well known and he was described on R4 earlier, by a journalist who had personally interviewed him, as being not the sharpest chisel in the tool-box and one who over-estimates his intellect, which suggests he would make a great Dunning-Kruger case study. My point being that this arsehole does seem of limited ability yet he has enjoyed life-long status and privilege simply because of who his mother is, which for me illustrates just one example of why the monarchy is offensively dysfunctional and needs to be dispensed with.   

In what way are you treating him differently to any other arsehole?

It seem to me that you are using his behaviour as a means to grind an axe.

[Gordon]

In what way are you treating him differently to any other arsehole?

It seem to me that you are using his behaviour as a means to grind an axe.

I think when it comes to both him and the monarchy there are good reasons for a spot of axe-grinding.