The prince and the paedophile

[Anchorman]

Ah, the memories.....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PwexhQ-92ws&fbclid=IwAR2_mR6QyGqdEwFbpWzMBr5E1t34TqXe1jmrGjk56yljTjELGKMjNR9_5fU

[Aruntraveller]

In law we generally don't hold people responsible for what their relatives do. Even Brady and Hindley's parents didn't face trial from bringing up murderers.

I wasn't talking about the law.

Purely thinking about how a certain mind set might be passed on within an insular, over protected, over privileged family.

[Robbie]

Heard on radio earlier that BlowJobhnson is enmeshed in some sort of scandal too with a blonde American businesswoman. What a shower aye?

I haven't seen the Prince Andrew interview yet (also heard about that on car radio), not sure if I can stomach it but think Chaz intends to watch so likely will see some.

LRoses:- Quite frankly I really don't know what you lot are on about. Andrew is an stupid idiot and if he did sexually molest that girl he should be prosecuted.

I may have missed something, know I felt a bit sick about it so that's possible but is the allegation that Andrew molested the girl? I know (she said and it looks that way), that he had sexual relations with her but the point is did he know she was pimped/trafficked by Epstein or did he think she was a 'friend' of Ghislane and Epstein? Frankly I think that would be his defence. He's shot himself in the foot by denying any knowledge of her if later it's proven that he did the deed. Yuck.

(War of the Worlds now, Martians landing in Leatherhead is more wholesome subject.)

[Nearly Sane]

Heard on radio earlier that BlowJobhnson is enmeshed in some sort of scandal too with a blonde American businesswoman. What a shower aye?

I haven't seen the Prince Andrew interview yet (also heard about that on car radio), not sure if I can stomach it but think Chaz intends to watch so likely will see some.

LRoses:- Quite frankly I really don't know what you lot are on about. Andrew is an stupid idiot and if he did sexually molest that girl he should be prosecuted.

I may have missed something, know I felt a bit sick about it so that's possible but is the allegation that Andrew molested the girl? I know (she said and it looks that way), that he had sexual relations with her but the point is did he know she was pimped/trafficked by Epstein or did he think she was a 'friend' of Ghislane and Epstein? Frankly I think that would be his defence. He's shot himself in the foot by denying any knowledge of her if later it's proven that he did the deed. Yuck.

(War of the Worlds now, Martians landing in Leatherhead is more wholesome subject.)

This is the Johnson story. I don't care if he had an affair but if he did and he helped her got on trade trips then he needs to resign. If he helped her get on trade trips, and didn't have an affair he needs to resign.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-50458461

[Nearly Sane]

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[Gordon]

Looks like he has become, as they say, 'toxic'.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-50467019

[Nearly Sane]

Looks like he has become, as they say, 'toxic'.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-50467019

If only for the idiocy and privilege exhibited on the interview, that was surely inevitable?

[ippy]

I'll say this for you, you certainly know how to bring out my republican tendencies!

Ditto!

Now who was that other one supposedly involved in the Profumo affair/case?

Regards, ippy.

[Gordon]

If only for the idiocy and privilege exhibited on the interview, that was surely inevitable?

Indeed: I suspect other organisations will follow suit, including the various charities that he is a patron of.

[Robbie]

I did watch the interview in the end and a Despatches on same subject which was more detailed & not just about the prince.

I wonder where Ghislane Maxwell is right now and why nobody is baying for her blood? Iremember the Maxwell business, him drowning and plundering pension funds, not in that order, but his children seemed to go on and do quite well in many ways. She is the youngest. Goodness knows what she saw in Epst, a friend of hers said said she was in love with and would have married him.

It seems Epstein was 'friends' with so many prominent people - Clinton, Trump, someone political from here whose name I can't remember atm.

[Nearly Sane]

This can't be seen as a reason to forget about it.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/uk-50496539?__twitter_impression=true

[Nearly Sane]

Ooft


https://amp.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/nov/22/prince-andrew-duke-of-york-sacked?CMP=share_btn_tw&__twitter_impression=true

[wigginhall]

Ooft


https://amp.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/nov/22/prince-andrew-duke-of-york-sacked?CMP=share_btn_tw&__twitter_impression=true

Marina on top form.  I like the quote from Fergie, "everyone has been so nice here in Riyadh.  I think that comes from good leadership".

[Nearly Sane]

Ooo - er


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/world-us-canada-53268218?__twitter_impression=true

[Roses]

All those involved should be rounded up and prosecuted, imo.

[Robbie]

There are thousands including some who would do the rounding up and prosecuting.

[Roses]

There are thousands including some who would do the rounding up and prosecuting.

We are talking about the topic of this thread!

[SteveH]

All those involved should be rounded up and prosecuted, imo.

Hogget's law applies: "If the opposite of a statement is obvious nonsense, the statement was not worth making". No-one would suggest that paedophiles should be let off and not prosecuted.

[Robbie]

We are talking about the topic of this thread!

Which is Epstein and those involved in his dubious activities of which there are/were thousands, some of whom would be involved in the rounding up and prosecuting which you suggest :- e.g. people in high places, e.g. the law. What did you think I meant?

[Roses]

It looks as if the noose is tightening around Prince Andrew's neck. I think he should be prosecuted if the evidence is irrefutable.

[SteveH]

It looks as if the noose is tightening around Prince Andrew's neck. I think he should be prosecuted if the evidence is irrefutable.

If you mean evidence of paedophilia, you're demonstrating Hogget's law again, but I don't think there's any evidence of that. He's just been a very silly boy in choosing unsuitable friends.

[Roses]

There is more to it than that.

"Prosecutors have continued their investigation and sought testimony from Prince Andrew. He faces accusations from Virginia Giuffre, who has claimed she was forced to have sex with him at Maxwell’s home in London when she was 17. Her claims have been categorically denied by the prince."

It looks as if the Prince has a case to answer.

[Nearly Sane]

Marina Hyde on Prince Andrew and Ghislaine Maxwell


https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/jul/03/ghislaine-maxwell-epstein-prince-andrew

[Harrowby Hall]

If you mean evidence of paedophilia, you're demonstrating Hogget's law again, but I don't think there's any evidence of that. He's just been a very silly boy in choosing unsuitable friends.

If Virginia Giuffre was17 at the time then this is not case of "paedophilia". Paedophilia is sexual activity with prepubescent children. The appropriate term for post-pubescent children is "hebephilia".

[Nearly Sane]

If Virginia Giuffre was17 at the time then this is not case of "paedophilia". Paedophilia is sexual activity with prepubescent children. The appropriate term for post-pubescent children is "hebephilia".

While you are right in spirit  paedophilia covers sexual attraction to prepubescents rather than just sexual activity.