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« Reply #25 on: September 27, 2019, 05:01:25 PM »
But getting back to Nagga Muchetty , I can't stand the woman .

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« Reply #26 on: September 27, 2019, 06:29:12 PM »
Because there are reasons both that these people want to come here, and why we shouldn't be stopping them doing so.

I thought, and still think, that it needs expanding upon, and I think I reasonably explained why.

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It appears to me you seem to want an open door to humanity as a whole to come here as they please no matter how many, you explain why you want to put out your unending to all humanity welcome mat before I consider whether I will give you an answer or not, more likely not.(there you are a half of a clay pidgin for you).

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« Reply #27 on: September 27, 2019, 06:31:07 PM »
It appears to me you seem to want an open door to humanity as a whole to come here as they please no matter how many, you explain why you want to put out your unending to all humanity welcome mat before I consider whether I will give you an answer or not, more likely not.(there you are a half of a clay pidgin for you).

Regards, ippy.

I think 'humanity is welcome' would make a rather nice mat.

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« Reply #28 on: September 27, 2019, 06:36:41 PM »
It appears to me you seem to want an open door to humanity as a whole to come here as they please no matter how many, you explain why you want to put out your unending to all humanity welcome mat before I consider whether I will give you an answer or not, more likely not.(there you are a half of a clay pidgin for you).

Regards, ippy.

It is good to have people wanting to come to the UK, especially if they have skills that are useful to Britain. It is also good to help migrants escaping from vile regimes.
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« Reply #29 on: September 27, 2019, 06:38:17 PM »
I think 'humanity is welcome' would make a rather nice mat.

Of course humanity is welcome, now all of humanity here In the UK? 

Regards, ippy.

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« Reply #30 on: September 27, 2019, 06:48:34 PM »
It is good to have people wanting to come to the UK, especially if they have skills that are useful to Britain. It is also good to help migrants escaping from vile regimes.

L R, you've quoted very nearly word for word the very things I quoted in a recent mailing to the forum, including a reference to asylum seekers.

Nothing wrong with letting the immigrants we do need come here including genuine asylum seekers.

We need something like the Ausie points system, remember?

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« Reply #31 on: September 27, 2019, 06:50:01 PM »
But getting back to Nagga Muchetty , I can't stand the woman .

Strange, I've heard she loves you.
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« Reply #32 on: September 27, 2019, 06:55:25 PM »
Strange, I've heard she loves you.
And she can spell his name.

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« Reply #33 on: September 27, 2019, 06:56:41 PM »
Of course humanity is welcome, now all of humanity here In the UK? 

Regards, ippy.

Best hyperbole of the day award.

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« Reply #34 on: September 27, 2019, 07:02:37 PM »
Ippy,

Yeah, bloody foreigners coming here with all their qualifications and expertise working and paying their taxes, adding all that cultural diversity. Who do they bloody well think they are eh?

Tell you what too, if we don’t keep a really close eye on them next thing you know they’ll be joining our lovely army and risking their lives for the British way of life. Bloody foreigners.

If you haven't already read Douglas Murray's book 'The Strange Death of Europe', or listened to some interviews he has given about this book of his via YouTube you'll be either reading or listening to his point of view a point of view I can't find anything in it that I can disagree with, if you don't like his thoughts on this subject we'll never going to agree about this subject ever, so their'd be no point discussing this with you.

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« Reply #35 on: September 27, 2019, 07:04:06 PM »
And she can spell his name.
we have a love/hate relationship
It works for some 😂😘

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« Reply #36 on: September 27, 2019, 07:04:32 PM »
If you haven't already read Douglas Murray's book 'The Strange Death of Europe', or listened to some interviews he has given about this book of his via YouTube you'll be either reading or listening to his point of view a point of view I can't find anything in it that I can disagree with, if you don't like his thoughts on this subject we'll never going to agree about this subject ever, so their'd be no point discussing this with you.

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« Reply #37 on: September 27, 2019, 07:15:06 PM »
Best hyperbole of the day award.


I'll go with that but it might be better quoted in context:
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It appears to me you seem to want an open door to humanity as a whole to come here as they please no matter how many, you explain why you want to put out your unending to all humanity welcome mat before I consider whether I will give you an answer or not, more likely not.(there you are a half of a clay pidgin for you).

Regards, ippy.

I think 'humanity is welcome' would make a rather nice mat.
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Then my reply to Gordon's welcome to humanity was:

Of course humanity is welcome, now all of humanity here In the UK? 

Regards to all, ippy.

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« Reply #38 on: September 27, 2019, 07:17:34 PM »


I'll go with that but it might be better quoted in context:
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It appears to me you seem to want an open door to humanity as a whole to come here as they please no matter how many, you explain why you want to put out your unending to all humanity welcome mat before I consider whether I will give you an answer or not, more likely not.(there you are a half of a clay pidgin for you).

Regards, ippy.

I think 'humanity is welcome' would make a rather nice mat.
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Then my reply to Gordon's welcome to humanity was:

Of course humanity is welcome, now all of humanity here In the UK? 

Regards to all, ippy.


I quoted your post that I replied to in its entirety.

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« Reply #39 on: September 27, 2019, 07:19:54 PM »


I'll go with that but it might be better quoted in context:
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It appears to me you seem to want an open door to humanity as a whole to come here as they please no matter how many, you explain why you want to put out your unending to all humanity welcome mat before I consider whether I will give you an answer or not, more likely not.(there you are a half of a clay pidgin for you).

Regards, ippy.

I think 'humanity is welcome' would make a rather nice mat.
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Then my reply to Gordon's welcome to humanity was:

Of course humanity is welcome, now all of humanity here In the UK? 

Regards to all, ippy.
Oh and you are also using the slippery slope fallacy.

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« Reply #40 on: September 27, 2019, 07:44:25 PM »
Quite a lot of people from here emigrate, it's not that difficult.
I like our diverse population, it's far more interesting now than it was in parents time.
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« Reply #41 on: September 27, 2019, 09:41:11 PM »
Maybe we could trade:

The UK needs productive workers: fruit pickers, hotel workers, cooks, plumbers, builders, doctors, scientists and so on.

On the other hand we have an excess of pensioners that could move abroad for support and care, boosting the local economies.
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« Reply #42 on: September 27, 2019, 10:18:17 PM »
Well. Ippy, for all we know, you may be an immigrant. After all, you don't seem to know the difference between pigeon and pidgin.
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« Reply #43 on: September 27, 2019, 11:05:59 PM »
It appears to me you seem to want an open door to humanity as a whole to come here as they please no matter how many, you explain why you want to put out your unending to all humanity welcome mat before I consider whether I will give you an answer or not, more likely not.(there you are a half of a clay pidgin for you).

Is there any evidence that everyone wants to come... no.   And, if that many did, many of them would change their minds, and indeed perhaps we'd start taking overseas aid seriously.  In the longer term, I think the idea of restricting where people can look for a better life or better work based upon whose great-great-grandfather had a bigger axe/better gun/more overtly funded military/industrial complex is fundamentally immoral.  If we ever get to a point where we have overcrowding issues in a particular area (and, in the UK, that's not currently even close to being an issue) then rather than try to strongarm the effect as a 'solution' I'd suggest we remedy the push at the far ends - raise the standard of living and opportunities for development and improvement in the second and third world with genuine investment in the local infrastructures.  Remove the incentive for them to seek a better life here by giving them a better life where they are.

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« Reply #44 on: September 27, 2019, 11:29:40 PM »
Well. Ippy, for all we know, you may be an immigrant. After all, you don't seem to know the difference between pigeon and pidgin.
irrelevant and a bit snobby.

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« Reply #45 on: September 27, 2019, 11:34:57 PM »
I would just like to point out that I think some of you are missing a central point here.

One of the reasons that Naga Munchetty got upset about it (aside from the obvious racism involved) is, of course that she hails from that far flung land called Streatham. A similar situation applied to 3 out of the 4 congresswomen that Trump targeted with his advice to "go back to where you come from", in that they were born in the USA.

So all the talk about immigrants introduced by Sririam and then picked up by Ippy on this thread is interesting, and to a certain extent depressing, but not actually to the point.
Before we work on Artificial Intelligence shouldn't we address the problem of natural stupidity.

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« Reply #46 on: September 28, 2019, 12:10:05 AM »
I would just like to point out that I think some of you are missing a central point here.

One of the reasons that Naga Munchetty got upset about it (aside from the obvious racism involved) is, of course that she hails from that far flung land called Streatham. A similar situation applied to 3 out of the 4 congresswomen that Trump targeted with his advice to "go back to where you come from", in that they were born in the USA.

So all the talk about immigrants introduced by Sririam and then picked up by Ippy on this thread is interesting, and to a certain extent depressing, but not actually to the point.
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« Reply #47 on: September 28, 2019, 05:22:12 AM »


Racism is about race. There could be other reasons such as nationalism, language even perhaps diet, why people are disliked by the locals. 

It is a common human trait to avoid people who are different from ourselves. It makes people insecure. Perhaps it is some sort of a survival strategy.

Even in India, which is perhaps one of the most diverse nations in the world, we don't like it if people from different regions or linguistic groups or diet or religion or even people with a different lifestyle, move into our localities.

We are most comfortable with people who are as similar to us as possible. That's the way it is...!!


« Last Edit: September 28, 2019, 05:47:02 AM by Sriram »

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« Reply #48 on: September 28, 2019, 06:56:04 AM »
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We are most comfortable with people who are as similar to us as possible. That's the way it is...!!

Speak for yourself.
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« Reply #49 on: September 28, 2019, 07:47:34 AM »

Racism is about race. There could be other reasons such as nationalism, language even perhaps diet, why people are disliked by the locals. 

It is a common human trait to avoid people who are different from ourselves. It makes people insecure. Perhaps it is some sort of a survival strategy.

Even in India, which is perhaps one of the most diverse nations in the world, we don't like it if people from different regions or linguistic groups or diet or religion or even people with a different lifestyle, move into our localities.

We are most comfortable with people who are as similar to us as possible. That's the way it is...!!

I kind of agree with your mailing Sriram what you say is OK up to a point Both of my adopted sons are mixed race West Indian and white English, so as you can see race is not any kind of an issue with me I don't like answering questions about ethnicity on official forms etc however for this post and setting the scene both my wife and I are referred to as white people, we both see ourselves as people struggling with life just like the rest of us.

The only trouble I have that goes along with the extraordinarily rapid influx is the sheer numbers of immigrants we now have here, there's no need to quote figures it's abundantly obvious unless you're like so many people here that don't want to see it.

I cannot understand the people that actually refuse to see why leavers want an Aussie points style system introduced here in the UK and they seem to get so extremely upset if you have the temerity to suggest just something as simple as not allowing potential immigrants here to live that have a criminal records.

If anything like suggesting some sort of control on immigration is suggested whoever suggests it is looked upon as on a par with a serial killers by a certain part of our UK population, I really don't know what they are getting at, they puzzle me.

Regards, ippy