Naga Munchetty - censored or censured ? OR both?

[Nearly Sane]

I've said before now I live In Bromley - London Borough, Kent to some people, not Bromley-by-Bow. I also work in a different part of Bromley. I'm not unaware of, for example, more people from Easter Europe than there used to be, I see several at work, know about the wonders of Polish plumbers (we did have a Polish guy recommended to me who did some work for us a few years back), and there are more grocery shops catering for the E European market than there used to be. That doesn't bother me at all, some just work here for a while and go back, others stay and are integrated. I could've gone to another EU country and worked there if I'd wanted, I didn't. I also occasionally think stupid and inappropriate things - one example is when someone was telling me about the beauties of Transylvania and I kept thinking, "Where the vampires come from", didn't say it but wanted to giggle(childish).

Over the years I've seen more people from Somalia and know there are areas with large Somali community.

When I was at school there was an influx of people from Kenya and a bit later, Uganda, the latter left because of Idi Amin, can't remember details about the Kenya people but think it was similar.
Plenty of British people have lived in both of those countries.

Of course there's a difference between someone travelling to work in another country and escaping a harsh regime. The latter have it harder.

I'm just not bothered by it Ippy. Life goes on the same, there are economic ups and downs here as everywhere but we're still basically alright. It might be different for you.

I didn't realise it was so late! Seeyou tomorrow maybe. I think we've done this to death, can't think of anything else to say on the subject.

The links pretty good about what happened in Kenya in 1968 - I only just remember it.

https://mediadiversified.org/2018/03/22/british-kenyan-and-south-asian-a-postcolonial-migration-story/

[ippy]

We have had severe problems with Bangladesh, Myanmar and Sri Lanka refugees. 

Even within India, the problem is lob sided development.  Some states are fairly well developed and are having fertility rates that are less than replacement rates.  Some other states are very poor and continue to have high population growth rates even today. So this results in migration of workers from one state to another.

Ultimately many of the migrants end up sleeping on footpaths, doing meager jobs, begging and so on.  Many locals get angry that in their state, in which they pay the taxes, these 'outsiders' turn up in a sorry state and add to the misery of others. 

This is a problem with no immediate solution. People should work for an even development so that such migrations are not necessary or the inflow and outflow get balanced.

It's a similar problem here Sriram not exactly similar of cause, as I've mentioned both of my sons are of mixed race, my oldest went to nursery school in Winchmore Hill, North London some 37 years ago even then he was the only child that spoke English.

It's something that largely people over here don't seem to be able to understand or don't want to understand is the pressure just this one language problem that happened to be the problem my own child came up against, even though I got on very well with all of this united nations of people that surrounded me at that time the pressure it puts on to all of our services
and at the same time the services are under this continuing pressure it's making all sorts of supply problems for the next generation coming up.

At the moment the UK's attention is focused on Brexit and the remainers are so focused on reversing the referendum result they're even trying to squash racism into the equation, even though the extraordinary influx of numbers of  immigrants entering the country are, brexit or not, it's the sheer numbers turning upside down the ability of every public service to perform their allotted tasks and more.

So getting along with people is all very nice and cosy but these vast numbers are unsustainable we need a manageable flow of migration into the country not a bloody great tidal wave, from what you say Sriram it sounds like India has a very similar problem.

Regards, ippy. 

[Roses]

Many Brits live in other countries.Maybe not so much these days, but in the past most didn't bother to learn the language of the country they were in, expecting people to speak to them in English!

[ippy]

Many Brits live in other countries.Maybe not so much these days, but in the past most didn't bother to learn the language of the country they were in, expecting people to speak to them in English!

Yes L R if there were a more steady stream of immigrants they would be a lot easier to assimilate into the community in the mean time the time where I was referring to my own son the only English speaker at playschool was having to be on hold while the others were taking a lot of extra resources to familiarise themselves with the language to the cost of those already familiar with speaking English.

The tone of your post it seems to me that in some way you're wanting me to say things like bloody foreigners, send em back home, both of which couldn't be further away from any of my thoughts at any time ever, I don't think in that way at all.

The point I was making is that in so many ways it takes that every little extra effort, like learning the language, etc etc etc and then added to that the continuation of bringing people from overseas here in the large numbers we've been apparently racing to import for far too many years now.

I was living in Winchmore Hill at the time and the next door borough was Palmers Green and even the Greeks were calling it Palmers Greek way back then, 37 years ago, that has to be telling you something L R.

I am against copious amounts of foreigners coming here to the UK in such as short period of time person as opposed to being a, we completely don't want any foreigners coming here to the UK, person.

Regards, ippy.

[Roses]

Yes L R if there were a more steady stream of immigrants they would be a lot easier to assimilate into the community in the mean time the time where I was referring to my own son the only English speaker at playschool was having to be on hold while the others were taking a lot of extra resources to familiarise themselves with the language to the cost of those already familiar with speaking English.

The tone of your post it seems to me that in some way you're wanting me to say things like bloody foreigners, send em back home, both of which couldn't be further away from any of my thoughts at any time ever, I don't think in that way at all.

The point I was making is that in so many ways it takes that every little extra effort, like learning the language, etc etc etc and then added to that the continuation of bringing people from overseas here in the large numbers we've been apparently racing to import for far too many years now.

I was living in Winchmore Hill at the time and the next door borough was Palmers Green and even the Greeks were calling it Palmers Greek way back then, 37 years ago, that has to be telling you something L R.

I am against copious amounts of foreigners coming here to the UK in such as short period of time person as opposed to being a, we completely don't want any foreigners coming here to the UK, person.

Regards, ippy.

As I have said so many times, most Brits ancestors were incomers, in fact I am an incomer not being born in the UK.

[ippy]

Don't be shy ippy!     You can see my mug shot at my blog site, for what it is worth. Click above left. 

I've seen your photo Sriram, where do you want me to send the money?

Regards, ippy.

[ippy]

As I have said so many times, most Brits ancestors were incomers, in fact I am an incomer not being born in the UK.

This post of yours suggests to me you have missed the point of the things I have said about immigration in my previous post  my family came here from Flanders 200 years ago but that's also irrelevant to the contents of my post.

Regards, ippy.

[Sriram]

I've seen your photo Sriram, where do you want me to send the money?

Regards, ippy.

 
  Waiting to see your photo.....!