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Re: UK election 2019
« Reply #325 on: December 06, 2019, 01:49:29 PM »
Apparently disabled people don't understand money

https://metro.co.uk/2019/12/06/tory-candidate-says-disabled-people-paid-less-dont-understand-money-11280594/?fbclid=IwAR3WSvD4jJxMH85fB5nFoP5Ox54FraWu-K8h9SQzgr2wIrgCbFDGxH04C4M

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh! >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(

Our DS son admittedly doesn't understand the value of money, but I believe he gets paid the princely sum of £3 per week for packing electrical goods two days a week a firm run by the social services. His benefits package is deemed sufficient.
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Re: UK election 2019
« Reply #327 on: December 06, 2019, 04:35:11 PM »
The Fib Dems

https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/opendemocracyuk/what-are-jo-swinsons-liberal-democrats-so-desperate-to-hide/

Appalling - and a source of regret for me, since I've voted Lib Dem most often in my adult life. It doesn't say much for their expensive lawyers either, who didn't bother to check the supposed 'replies' to OpenDemocracy (there were none), let alone noticing the laughable discrepancy of a 'reply' being given the day before O.D. had even asked the question!

The pitiful interview of Jo Swinson by Emma Barnett on Woman's Hour this morning did little to restore my confidence that the Lib Dems might be a strong force holding the balance of power in a hung parliament. Swinson sounded completely out of her depth and unprepared, whereas Barnett is a fearsome interviewer and something of a Rottweiler. Swinson's voice is all wrong too. A minor point, but her squeaky soprano makes her sound like a not-so-clever 6th form debater, and certainly not a strong leader.
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Re: UK election 2019
« Reply #328 on: December 06, 2019, 04:47:39 PM »
Corbyn v Johnson - the battle of the chores


https://amp.theguardian.com/politics/2019/dec/05/scrub-antisemitism-out-of-labour-corbyn-wont-even-clean-his-own-house?CMP=share_btn_tw&__twitter_impression=true

They should issue them both with boxing gloves and let them fight it out that way, it would be more fun than listening to them slagging each other off.
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Re: UK election 2019
« Reply #329 on: December 06, 2019, 08:10:19 PM »
They should issue them both with boxing gloves and let them fight it out that way, it would be more fun than listening to them slagging each other off.

Er ... that would be an outright win for bully boy Boris and Jeremy would look really weedy in boxing kit and gloves.

I'm hoping for a sensible explanation of the proposed way forward - from one side anyway.
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Ah, but I was so much older then ... I'm younger than that now

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Re: UK election 2019
« Reply #330 on: December 06, 2019, 08:28:41 PM »
Appalling - and a source of regret for me, since I've voted Lib Dem most often in my adult life. It doesn't say much for their expensive lawyers either, who didn't bother to check the supposed 'replies' to OpenDemocracy (there were none), let alone noticing the laughable discrepancy of a 'reply' being given the day before O.D. had even asked the question!

The pitiful interview of Jo Swinson by Emma Barnett on Woman's Hour this morning did little to restore my confidence that the Lib Dems might be a strong force holding the balance of power in a hung parliament. Swinson sounded completely out of her depth and unprepared, whereas Barnett is a fearsome interviewer and something of a Rottweiler. Swinson's voice is all wrong too. A minor point, but her squeaky soprano makes her sound like a not-so-clever 6th form debater, and certainly not a strong leader.

Swinson is my MP: I do hope she gets not just beat, but utterly tanked, and based on the unrepresentative sample of people I've spoken to she isn't popular locally due to her history of Tory-supporting. Of course it matters little, in that the outcome mainly depends on whether those previous Labour voters in parts of England who naively voted 'Leave' are, in sufficient numbers, perverse enough to now vote for the Tories next week - hope not.

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Re: UK election 2019
« Reply #331 on: December 06, 2019, 10:15:58 PM »
Apparently disabled people don't understand money

https://metro.co.uk/2019/12/06/tory-candidate-says-disabled-people-paid-less-dont-understand-money-11280594/?fbclid=IwAR3WSvD4jJxMH85fB5nFoP5Ox54FraWu-K8h9SQzgr2wIrgCbFDGxH04C4M
I'm not defending her disgraceful comments, but it appears that she was talking about learning-disabled, not pysically or sensorily disabled, people, and many of them do have difficulty with money. They should still, of course, be paid the same rate for a job as a non-disabled person, and it sounds as though she's saying that it's ok to take advantage of them, because they won't know.
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Re: UK election 2019
« Reply #334 on: December 07, 2019, 03:31:05 PM »
Why did the chicken cross the road?




















To avoid the Andrew Neil interview

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Re: UK election 2019
« Reply #335 on: December 07, 2019, 03:50:04 PM »
Why did the chicken cross the road?
To avoid the Andrew Neil interview
Nicking that, for Facebook.
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Re: UK election 2019
« Reply #336 on: December 07, 2019, 04:34:37 PM »
Why did the chicken cross the road?




















To avoid the Andrew Neil interview


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Re: UK election 2019
« Reply #337 on: December 07, 2019, 04:47:58 PM »
Before we work on Artificial Intelligence shouldn't we address the problem of natural stupidity.

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Re: UK election 2019
« Reply #338 on: December 08, 2019, 02:20:21 PM »


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Re: UK election 2019
« Reply #340 on: December 08, 2019, 09:19:55 PM »
Brexit becomes Reform


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2019-50704706#
Reform the voting system? Abolish the House of Lords? Bugger me - I agree with the nicotine-staiined man-frog!
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Re: UK election 2019
« Reply #341 on: December 09, 2019, 11:12:14 AM »
Meanwhile Johnson insists on unicorns


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-50711868

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Re: UK election 2019
« Reply #342 on: December 09, 2019, 11:41:54 AM »
Meanwhile Johnson insists on unicorns


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-50711868

Please don't upset the unicorns. I have it on good authority, i.e. my pet unicorn who sits on my wardrobe, that they have no wish to be linked to the No 10 idiot, and may consider suing you for your comment.   ;D
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Re: UK election 2019
« Reply #343 on: December 09, 2019, 04:08:04 PM »

CON: 42% (-) LAB: 36% (+1) LDEM: 12% (-1) BREX: 3% (-) via @ICMResearch, 06 - 09 Dec

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Re: UK election 2019
« Reply #344 on: December 09, 2019, 06:07:50 PM »
How cats and dogs will vote. This is very biased to the Labour Party and the Guardian but at least one line made me laugh heartily



https://youtu.be/nFKwdxUv7Hc

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Re: UK election 2019
« Reply #345 on: December 10, 2019, 11:58:37 AM »

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Re: UK election 2019
« Reply #346 on: December 10, 2019, 01:00:00 PM »
Dickhead and dickheader

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2019-50726592

In my opinion this says more about the "friend" than John Ashworth. But anyway, did we not already know that there are a lot of Labour MPs who don't like Jeremy Corbyn?  Are there any Conservatives who don't like Boris Johnson?

Yesterday our sociopath PM showed his true colours again and Tory party "sources" threw an entirely mendacious dead cat to Laura Keunssberg which she tweeted to her 1 million + followers as the truth, as did Robert Peston.  Matt Hancock, who was actually there, also tweeted a blatant lie.  Luckily there's film of the non-incident exposing their lies and on the plus side, the recording of Johnson behaving like the entitled ignorant sociopath he is has circulated widely.

In a sane world I would have woken up this morning to the news that Laura Keunssberg had been sacked.  Instead she tweeted an "apology" for the "confusion".  There was no confusion, she passed on lies without checking their veracity.  That is not journalism.  The BBC news department is currently a disgrace (and I've taken into account Outrider's spirited defence, which I would have agreed with about 10 years ago).

The BBC and NHS were examples of how socialised organisations can deliver very good services to the benefit of everyone.  The NHS has been chopped up and undermined gradually since Thatcher introduced an entirely unnecessary and benefit-free "internal market" and few seem to notice, let alone care that their tax money is being pocketed by billionaires instead of paying for sufficient doctors and nurses.  (Blair and his light-blue government continued the trend, the wholesale use of PFI being the most outrageous example.)  BBC news has been infiltrated by Tory activists (have a look at Nick Robinson's CV) who will be happy to see Auntie dead and in her grave.  It's what Rupert wants. 

Keunssberg said she had "two sources" for the lie she put out - she meant two Tories had told her lies she didn't check.  She's been reprimanded for misrepresenting what Jeremy Corbyn said in an interview with her.  Why is she still political editor of BBC News?

The BBC are reporting that nobody is really interested in the election, only a few organised Labour trouble-makers turn up to politicians' visits.  Find the film of Corbyn at a rally in Bristol.  Ask yourself why it wasn't on the BBC news last night.

If anyone would like to accuse me of being indoctrinated, please explain which of my points is incorrect and I'll explain, source it or retract.  I think my views are based in reality but am always open to being shown I'm wrong.


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Re: UK election 2019
« Reply #347 on: December 10, 2019, 01:02:05 PM »
From the BBc's rolling thread - viewers in Scotland have their own programme - Fib Dems strike again

"We haven't heard much so far today from the Lib Dems, but they are out on the campaign trail and gearing up for a big last push before polling day.

Party candidate and Brexit spokesman Tom Brake, who has been at the launch of the Lib Dems' final campaign poster in central London, has been reiterating their main aim - to stop Brexit.

He says the Lib Dems are the only party in this election that “can take seats from the Conservatives”."

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Re: UK election 2019
« Reply #348 on: December 10, 2019, 01:08:20 PM »
In my opinion this says more about the "friend" than John Ashworth. But anyway, did we not already know that there are a lot of Labour MPs who don't like Jeremy Corbyn?  Are there any Conservatives who don't like Boris Johnson?

Yesterday our sociopath PM showed his true colours again and Tory party "sources" threw an entirely mendacious dead cat to Laura Keunssberg which she tweeted to her 1 million + followers as the truth, as did Robert Peston.  Matt Hancock, who was actually there, also tweeted a blatant lie.  Luckily there's film of the non-incident exposing their lies and on the plus side, the recording of Johnson behaving like the entitled ignorant sociopath he is has circulated widely.

In a sane world I would have woken up this morning to the news that Laura Keunssberg had been sacked.  Instead she tweeted an "apology" for the "confusion".  There was no confusion, she passed on lies without checking their veracity.  That is not journalism.  The BBC news department is currently a disgrace (and I've taken into account Outrider's spirited defence, which I would have agreed with about 10 years ago).

The BBC and NHS were examples of how socialised organisations can deliver very good services to the benefit of everyone.  The NHS has been chopped up and undermined gradually since Thatcher introduced an entirely unnecessary and benefit-free "internal market" and few seem to notice, let alone care that their tax money is being pocketed by billionaires instead of paying for sufficient doctors and nurses.  (Blair and his light-blue government continued the trend, the wholesale use of PFI being the most outrageous example.)  BBC news has been infiltrated by Tory activists (have a look at Nick Robinson's CV) who will be happy to see Auntie dead and in her grave.  It's what Rupert wants. 

Keunssberg said she had "two sources" for the lie she put out - she meant two Tories had told her lies she didn't check.  She's been reprimanded for misrepresenting what Jeremy Corbyn said in an interview with her.  Why is she still political editor of BBC News?

The BBC are reporting that nobody is really interested in the election, only a few organised Labour trouble-makers turn up to politicians' visits.  Find the film of Corbyn at a rally in Bristol.  Ask yourself why it wasn't on the BBC news last night.

If anyone would like to accuse me of being indoctrinated, please explain which of my points is incorrect and I'll explain, source it or retract.  I think my views are based in reality but am always open to being shown I'm wrong.

That was the point of my comment - Greig Baker 'the friend' is the 'dickheader' for recording and leaking this. Keunssberg's tweet was a disgrace, and that she tweeted that the messenger shouldn't be attacked is nonsense. As you say there was no verification and the initial tweet reported the violent attack as a fact.

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Re: UK election 2019
« Reply #349 on: December 10, 2019, 01:37:48 PM »
That was the point of my comment - Greig Baker 'the friend' is the 'dickheader' for recording and leaking this. Keunssberg's tweet was a disgrace, and that she tweeted that the messenger shouldn't be attacked is nonsense. As you say there was no verification and the initial tweet reported the violent attack as a fact.

Sorry if I misunderstood.  I'm so angry about what went on last night I just couldn't understand why nobody had already posted about it!

A friend showed me a video this morning which can be found by searching 'Jeremy Corbyn Mean Tweets'. It's charming and funny, which I am well aware is no substitute for leadership qualities, so don't take me to task on that point.  Try to imagine Boris Johnson doing the equivalent.