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Re: UK election 2019
« Reply #500 on: December 13, 2019, 06:50:34 PM »
Christine's comment is unpleasant and untrue. >:(
In what way is it untrue?

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Re: UK election 2019
« Reply #501 on: December 13, 2019, 06:57:43 PM »
A sad end. So we now have Peter Bottomley as Father of the House.

Ah, I'll do some name dropping, my friend is friends with him (I know virtually nothing about him except he lives near Hastings).

BHS:- "Corbyn: the gift that keeps on giving - to the tories."

Yes inadvertently. He didn't do or say anything wrong, he just didn't do or say anything with enough emphasis to make it memorable. I think he's a good bloke but he doesn't make his presence felt sufficiently to impact on most of the public. He suits me, I'd be happy to talk with and listen to him whilst sitting in armchairs by the fire but others want more than that. I do not understand why anybody wants Boris apart from Brexiteers.

Glad the Brexit party sank.

In what way is it untrue?

Hope don't mind me butting in but LR merely misunderstood, didn't read Christine's comment in context. Susan got something wrong, we all do that, it's in the past now though.
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Re: UK election 2019
« Reply #502 on: December 13, 2019, 07:03:31 PM »

Hope don't mind me butting in but LR merely misunderstood, didn't read Christine's comment in context. Susan got something wrong, we all do that, it's in the past now though.
And she should apologise to Christine surely?

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Re: UK election 2019
« Reply #503 on: December 13, 2019, 07:06:12 PM »
We don't know that she hasn't but that's between them, doubt Christine is bothered. It's not my gig but I don't like to see anyone piled on for making a mistake.
I'll say no more about it.
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Re: UK election 2019
« Reply #504 on: December 13, 2019, 07:09:04 PM »
We don't know that she hasn't but that's between them, doubt Christine is bothered. It's not my gig but I don't like to see anyone piled on for making a mistake.
I'll say no more about it.
Why is asking LR a question a pile on? That seems like quite an unpleasant accusation?

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Re: UK election 2019
« Reply #505 on: December 13, 2019, 10:22:12 PM »
Adam Hills on The Last Leg tonight better than any politician

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Re: UK election 2019
« Reply #506 on: December 13, 2019, 10:31:22 PM »
Adam Hills on The Last Leg tonight better than any politician
Though as a programme it needs to get out of the bubble. The idea that we have to hold the govt to account is correct and doesn't matter about who you vote for.

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Re: UK election 2019
« Reply #507 on: December 13, 2019, 10:40:45 PM »
Though as a programme it needs to get out of the bubble. The idea that we have to hold the govt to account is correct and doesn't matter about who you vote for.
They are being better balanced here.

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Re: UK election 2019
« Reply #508 on: December 14, 2019, 12:45:17 AM »
There are  various posts above commenting on whether I was wrong about a claim made in the news. The only thing I'll apologise for is mentioning it - as an irrelevant P.S.-  please note the word irrelevant- in the first place.
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Re: UK election 2019
« Reply #509 on: December 14, 2019, 08:37:09 AM »
If I have wronged Christine I apologise.
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Re: UK election 2019
« Reply #510 on: December 14, 2019, 10:16:16 AM »
That is so wrong!! And rather patronisingly wrong too. Do you think I'm some dumb old dear who can't think for herself?!!. Did you not notice the opening 'irrelevant P.S.? *sigh*
Susan - you get things wrong sometimes - it happens. It is getting very boring if your ego keeps requiring you to bring up your age every time you are corrected on a mistake you have made rather than argue the actual point being challenged.

Other posters are corrected on their mistakes and acknowledge it or argue the point under discussion. The only person who seem to think of you as "dumb" or "old" on here seems to be you as you are the only person bringing it up *sigh*
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Re: UK election 2019
« Reply #511 on: December 14, 2019, 02:26:40 PM »
Susan - you get things wrong sometimes - it happens. It is getting very boring if your ego keeps requiring you to bring up your age every time you are corrected on a mistake you have made rather than argue the actual point being challenged.

Other posters are corrected on their mistakes and acknowledge it or argue the point under discussion. The only person who seem to think of you as "dumb" or "old" on here seems to be you as you are the only person bringing it up *sigh*
So now why are you bringing it up again?!! There will be no more comments on political topics from me.
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Re: UK election 2019
« Reply #512 on: December 14, 2019, 03:49:37 PM »
So now why are you bringing it up again?!! There will be no more comments on political topics from me.
I am not bringing it up. You brought it up.  I am responding to your comment and just trying to make you aware that you bringing it up in your comments on threads seems to be getting to be a bit of a habit for you - in case you hadn't realised. If you had realised and are happy to continue bringing it up, it's a free country.

The English language hasn't changed has it? The last time I checked, responding to you bringing it up is not the same as bringing something up myself. 
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Re: UK election 2019
« Reply #514 on: December 14, 2019, 04:33:25 PM »
My heart bleeds for the DUP, NOT!
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Re: UK election 2019
« Reply #515 on: December 14, 2019, 04:54:27 PM »
Labour MP John Mc Donnell is not a happy bunny, he is refusing to be part of any shadow cabinet, should he be asked to do so.
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Re: UK election 2019
« Reply #516 on: December 14, 2019, 04:56:20 PM »
Some analysis on NI

https://www.prospectmagazine.co.uk/politics/the-new-electoral-reality-in-northern-ireland-and-how-the-dup-hit-rock-bottom-nigel-dodds-belfast-north

Interesting stuff.  I thought that Brexit is a form of English nationalism, hence Scots and Irish are surplus to requirements.  I don't know whether that leads to independence and unity respectively, but it seems likely.
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Re: UK election 2019
« Reply #517 on: December 14, 2019, 05:23:05 PM »
Interesting stuff.  I thought that Brexit is a form of English nationalism, hence Scots and Irish are surplus to requirements.  I don't know whether that leads to independence and unity respectively, but it seems likely.
   




Essentially, the Tories aere starting to be seen as a far-right English National Party up here.
Johnson is even less popular than Thatcher - and he hasn't started yet.
His government has already said they would refuse a section 30 order for Indyref 2 - playing right into Sturgeon's hands.
The bonds which tied the UK together are weakening daily.
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Re: UK election 2019
« Reply #518 on: December 14, 2019, 05:32:38 PM »
Glad to see that that deeply unpleasant little shit Zac Goldsmith got booted out by Sarah Olney. Very sorry that Dennis "the legend" Skinner lost, and slightly sorry that Anna Soubry did, even if she is a former tory.
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Re: UK election 2019
« Reply #519 on: December 14, 2019, 06:15:28 PM »
Some analysis on NI

https://www.prospectmagazine.co.uk/politics/the-new-electoral-reality-in-northern-ireland-and-how-the-dup-hit-rock-bottom-nigel-dodds-belfast-north
These are certainly interesting times and I am glad the DUP has lost its seats to more liberal parties.

Hopefully, Labour's loss of seats in Parliament means that in the very near future they will have a new leader, a less hard-Left manifesto and one that better reflects the cultural values of their traditional voters, if they actually want to be elected into power. A new approach may also make them a more credible Opposition and a serious challenge to the Tories in the next election.

My constituency retained its Labour candidate. I voted for my local MP rather than the leader of any of the parties. I am one of the voters who did not have any major aversion to Corbyn but did not see him as a statesman or leader of a country and did not believe that Labour could deliver economically or practically on many of its manifesto promises - I thought some of their policies would be a shambles - but I liked my MP, who had defied the party whip. I admit I did not want Boris in power - not because of his comments about letterboxes, watermelons etc as I am not offended by his use of satire  - but because I see him an an arrogant, over-privileged buffoon. I find him to be untrustworthy, self-serving and lacking in attention to detail in a job that requires precision.

But regardless, he is PM and I await developments - these are certainly interesting times.
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Re: UK election 2019
« Reply #520 on: December 14, 2019, 07:25:21 PM »
We must now hold the tories to their promises - 50,000 new nurses, 30 new hospitals, and more police (can't remember the exact number promised).
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Re: UK election 2019
« Reply #521 on: December 14, 2019, 08:00:50 PM »
We must now hold the tories to their promises - 50,000 new nurses, 30 new hospitals, and more police (can't remember the exact number promised).
20,000 though that is less than they got rid of. And remember that it isn't 50,000 new nurses - it is 31,000 and retaining 19,000 who would have left. And watch out for page 48

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Re: UK election 2019
« Reply #522 on: December 14, 2019, 08:27:32 PM »
echo echo ECHO

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Re: UK election 2019
« Reply #523 on: December 14, 2019, 08:48:11 PM »
echo echo ECHO
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Re: UK election 2019
« Reply #524 on: December 14, 2019, 09:13:28 PM »
Want to challenge the comment about accuracy?
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Is it compulsory? 😱