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'London Bridge: People 'injured' after stabbing'
« on: November 29, 2019, 03:08:44 PM »
Obviously one's mind goes back to last incident at London Bridge.



https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-50604781

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Re: 'London Bridge: People 'injured' after stabbing'
« Reply #1 on: November 29, 2019, 03:22:42 PM »
Obviously one's mind goes back to last incident at London Bridge.



https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-50604781

TERRIBLE!!!! >:( Being in possession of a knife when out and about should carry a mandatory prison sentence, imo.
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Re: 'London Bridge: People 'injured' after stabbing'
« Reply #2 on: November 29, 2019, 03:23:54 PM »
Fox News have tweeted about the incident including a picture of Tower Bridge

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« Reply #3 on: November 29, 2019, 03:34:07 PM »
Fox News have tweeted about the incident including a picture of Tower Bridge

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« Reply #4 on: November 29, 2019, 04:02:48 PM »
Fox News have tweeted about the incident including a picture of Tower Bridge
   


Oh, what a surprise....or not.
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Re: 'London Bridge: People 'injured' after stabbing'
« Reply #5 on: November 29, 2019, 05:52:35 PM »
Heard about that on radio on way home. Frightening.
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Re: 'London Bridge: People 'injured' after stabbing'
« Reply #6 on: November 29, 2019, 05:58:54 PM »
TERRIBLE!!!! >:( Being in possession of a knife when out and about should carry a mandatory prison sentence, imo.

No. Please. Stop.

I had a friend, who died a while back who owned a boat. He once got stopped by the police as a result of a vexatious complaint from some snotty person and he got arrested because he had his boat knife with him. If there had been a mandatory prison sentence for carrying a knife, he would have gone to jail for no good reason.

Please think before you come up with these absolutist proclamations.
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Re: 'London Bridge: People 'injured' after stabbing'
« Reply #7 on: November 29, 2019, 05:59:40 PM »
Fox News have tweeted about the incident including a picture of Tower Bridge

Oh really? I've got a bridge I can sell you...
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Re: 'London Bridge: People 'injured' after stabbing'
« Reply #8 on: November 29, 2019, 06:03:37 PM »
Sadly, the perpetrator had to be shot dead.

When I first heard about the incident it sounded like a group of people beating the crap out of an innocent man, but clearly, he was the guilty party and they were trying to restrain him. The BBC are currently saying he had a hoax bomb vest, which makes those others pretty courageous IMO.
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Re: 'London Bridge: People 'injured' after stabbing'
« Reply #9 on: November 29, 2019, 06:08:18 PM »
Oh really? I've got a bridge I can sell you...
Sadly it would appear that the story was apocryphal and it was known what they were buying.

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Re: 'London Bridge: People 'injured' after stabbing'
« Reply #10 on: November 29, 2019, 06:35:34 PM »
Sadly it would appear that the story was apocryphal and it was known what they were buying.

I know. But the saying still exists and Fox News seems to have been confused.
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Re: 'London Bridge: People 'injured' after stabbing'
« Reply #11 on: November 29, 2019, 07:37:13 PM »
TERRIBLE!!!! >:( Being in possession of a knife when out and about should carry a mandatory prison sentence, imo.
   



Well, that's me in trouble, then.

I often carry a Swiss Army knife around if I'm walking in a strange area.
Not for defence: the file helps to smooth the tip of my long cane if it snags some sharp obstacle, and there are a few tools in the thing which can clear muck out of the tip if it clogs up, enablung it to rotate freely.
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Re: 'London Bridge: People 'injured' after stabbing'
« Reply #12 on: November 30, 2019, 09:51:38 AM »
I find that very strange indeed, I doubt other people with vision problems carry a knife, I somehow doubt it? We must ask Susan Doris.  I suspect the police might not be very forgiving if it was discovered on your person.
   




How else do you think I'm supposed to care for my cane if I'm walking on pabement sutrfaces which vary from cobbles, through tarmac, to muck?
My mobility training officer suggested I use the kinife - which I use around the house anyway, since I'm familiar with it, thirty - odd years ago when roller tips replaced the old pear-shaped ones.
The latter, incidentally, were murder when changing them in the winter - the muck tended to weld itself to the inner screw.
What would you suggest? A file, mini slim screwdriver, pencil (for securing the elastic on the cane), nail , ec, accompany me everywhere I walk?
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Re: 'London Bridge: People 'injured' after stabbing'
« Reply #13 on: November 30, 2019, 10:41:38 AM »
   




How else do you think I'm supposed to care for my cane if I'm walking on pabement sutrfaces which vary from cobbles, through tarmac, to muck?
My mobility training officer suggested I use the kinife - which I use around the house anyway, since I'm familiar with it, thirty - odd years ago when roller tips replaced the old pear-shaped ones.
The latter, incidentally, were murder when changing them in the winter - the muck tended to weld itself to the inner screw.
What would you suggest? A file, mini slim screwdriver, pencil (for securing the elastic on the cane), nail , ec, accompany me everywhere I walk?

I apologise for my post. :-[ My idea of a swiss army knife was something different, from the penknife it actually is!
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Re: 'London Bridge: People 'injured' after stabbing'
« Reply #14 on: November 30, 2019, 10:58:35 AM »
It's the use of an antique narwhal tusk to overpower the terrorist that sets this incident apart, I think. Although apparently wielded by a Polish chef there's something terribly British about this.

From The Tandoori Gazette, 30th November 1846: Captain Caruthers of the 5th Bangalore Rifles was walking his fiancee, Lady Amelia Pith-Helmet, home last night when they were set upon by dacoits. Captain Caruthers managed to disembowel three of them with a handy narwhal tusk before the others fled into the night. ‘He’s my hero,’ said  Lady Amelia this morning, but Captain Caruthers, who sustained only minor injuries to his moustache, dismissed the incident. ‘It’s just what a chap does, you know.’

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Re: 'London Bridge: People 'injured' after stabbing'
« Reply #15 on: November 30, 2019, 11:31:50 AM »
Then there is that one of the other people who helped restrain the murdering thug was a murderer out on day release.

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« Reply #16 on: November 30, 2019, 02:15:57 PM »
Then there is that one of the other people who helped restrain the murdering thug was a murderer out on day release.

I got the impression from the lunchtime news that a number of people who were on day release helped to restrain the murderer.
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Re: 'London Bridge: People 'injured' after stabbing'
« Reply #17 on: December 01, 2019, 08:51:33 AM »
Then there is that one of the other people who helped restrain the murdering thug was a murderer out on day release.
I've been trying to find out more about those who restrained him, but canot find much. However, since the murderer was at this conference, I wonder how it is that he, and all others, was not scanned or body-checked for any weapons on entry. The fake bomb vest would have been discovered too.
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Re: 'London Bridge: People 'injured' after stabbing'
« Reply #18 on: December 01, 2019, 09:10:42 AM »
I've been trying to find out more about those who restrained him, but canot find much. However, since the murderer was at this conference, I wonder how it is that he, and all others, was not scanned or body-checked for any weapons on entry. The fake bomb vest would have been discovered too.

I suspect that such a check might have been perceived by the organisers as a demonstration of lack of trust in their objectives, methods and subjects.

Apparently, Usman Khan's attacks actually started inside Fishmongers Hall, at the meeting. There were attempts in the Hall to stop him but he managed to escape. It is not surprising, then, that convicted murderers were among the people trying to apprehend him. Let us consider that these people have benefited from the work and intentions  of people like Jack Merritt.
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Re: 'London Bridge: People 'injured' after stabbing'
« Reply #19 on: December 01, 2019, 09:34:51 AM »
I suspect that such a check might have been perceived by the organisers as a demonstration of lack of trust in their objectives, methods and subjects.

Apparently, Usman Khan's attacks actually started inside Fishmongers Hall, at the meeting. There were attempts in the Hall to stop him but he managed to escape. It is not surprising, then, that convicted murderers were among the people trying to apprehend him. Let us consider that these people have benefited from the work and intentions  of people like Jack Merritt.
I don't think that you can simply take the pursuit of the murderous thug as evidence of it being related to the work being done.

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Re: 'London Bridge: People 'injured' after stabbing'
« Reply #20 on: December 01, 2019, 10:47:42 AM »
I apologise for my post. :-[ My idea of a swiss army knife was something different, from the penknife it actually is!

What types of Swiss army knives are there? I've only ever seen one basic type, the tools vary a bit. Very useful they are too, people always had them at one time.
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It is illegal to: ... Carry a knife in public without good reason – unless it's a knife with a folding blade 3 inches long (7.62 cm) or less, eg a Swiss Army knife. Carry, buy or sell any type of banned knife. Use any knife in a threatening way (even a legal knife, such as a Swiss Army knife).


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Re: 'London Bridge: People 'injured' after stabbing'
« Reply #21 on: December 01, 2019, 12:05:16 PM »
I still maintain that unless you have a good justifiable reason for carrying any knife of any sort  like Anchorman, you should not do so.
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Re: 'London Bridge: People 'injured' after stabbing'
« Reply #22 on: December 01, 2019, 12:41:46 PM »
Wouldn't worry LR, most people don't unless they're essential tools (the knives not the people).
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Re: 'London Bridge: People 'injured' after stabbing'
« Reply #23 on: December 01, 2019, 01:08:41 PM »
I still maintain that unless you have a good justifiable reason for carrying any knife of any sort  like Anchorman, you should not do so.

I've not heard of many sight impaired muggers carrying Swiss army knives, (with 7.62 cm long blades or less), and brandishing them in a threatening way, recently.

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Re: 'London Bridge: People 'injured' after stabbing'
« Reply #24 on: December 01, 2019, 01:47:22 PM »
I've not heard of many sight impaired muggers carrying Swiss army knives, (with 7.62 cm long blades or less), and brandishing them in a threatening way, recently.

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Anchorman has a good reason for carrying a penknife as I have stated. I didn't realise a Swiss army knife was a penknife, not having come across one before.
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