Nationalism

[Roses]

False dichotomy, especially given your usual idea that the only type of presidency is the US.

Untrue! There are many presidents in this world, besides the idiot in the US for whom I have no respect, like Comrade VP! At least the British  Monarchy is supposed to be neutral in public where politics are concerned.

[Gordon]

I prefer the idea of a Monarchy to having a republic with a president.

A president isn't compulsory you know: even then the arrangements as to what the scope of the presidential role might be aren't fixed, and there are possibilities other than either the current Trumpesque madness or the anachronistic Windsor parasites.

[Anchorman]

LR; You quoted Johnson on patriotism. Leaving aside the fact that you took the quote out of context, choosing Johnson was singularly inappropriate. JBoswell wrote a diary of their 'Highland tour' which was more of a highland sneer on Johnson's part, and the man was cordially loathed by Boswell's father. Incidentally, Boswell is arather mixed up kid. A staunch advocate for Corsican independence, he nevertheless despised the flickering flame of Scots independence. He's buried in the private burial vault less tha n thirty yards from the place in which I worship each Sunday morning.

[Nearly Sane]

Untrue! There are many presidents in this world, besides the idiot in the US for whom I have no respect, like Comrade VP! At least the British  Monarchy is supposed to be neutral in public where politics are concerned.

You have just concentrated on the US presidential SYSTEM again showing that I was correct. It's not about the individual it's about the system. And you ignored that you continue with the false dichotomy. What is the need for s president? What does the Queen do except have a sex criminal in the family?

[Outrider]

Untrue! There are many presidents in this world, besides the idiot in the US for whom I have no respect, like Comrade VP! At least the British  Monarchy is supposed to be neutral in public where politics are concerned.

I refer you to the Spider letters care of Charlie-boy and the rather backward contention that his writing to the Prime Minister didn't prejudice his supposed impartiality, but the free press printing them would...?

O.

[Harrowby Hall]

I refer you to the Spider letters care of Charlie-boy and the rather backward contention that his writing to the Prime Minister didn't prejudice his supposed impartiality, but the free press printing them would...?

I feel rather sorry for Charlie-boy. He is an intelligent and capable man who has been under house-arrest since 1958 with only one constitutional duty to perform. And that hasn't happened yet - his mother is still alive. He has been the longest serving Prince of Wales, he may be one of the shortest serving monarchs.

I am not a royalist. I would welcome the United Republic of Great Britain - but with a non-executive presidency which could be a reward for someone who has genuinely brought great honour to the country.

[Outrider]

I feel rather sorry for Charlie-boy. He is an intelligent and capable man who has been under house-arrest since 1958 with only one constitutional duty to perform. And that hasn't happened yet - his mother is still alive. He has been the longest serving Prince of Wales, he may be one of the shortest serving monarchs.

I feel sorry for all of them, to an extent, but that plank wants the NHS to waste money on homeopathy, wants to have a special line to the Prime Minister for his chosen causes but not to be accused of compromising his political neutrality and wants to preserve brutalist architecture... he gets more sympathy than Andrew, these days, but not by much.  As to his wait to become Monarch... so he's been paid all this time and hasn't actually had to step up to the mark...

I am not a royalist. I would welcome the United Republic of Great Britain - but with a non-executive presidency which could be a reward for someone who has genuinely brought great honour to the country.

I second the motion. Now, change.org petition, or does anyone have Prime Minister Cummings' number?

O.

[Walter]

Outrider ,
I thought he supported the homeopathy thing as an instrument for medics to use to get rid of truoblesome 'patients' who were taking up preciousness time and NHS money ?

[Outrider]

Outrider ,
I thought he supported the homeopathy thing as an instrument for medics to use to get rid of truoblesome 'patients' who were taking up preciousness time and NHS money ?

Not as far as I'm aware, I was given to understand that he genuinely accepted it, even went to the World Health Assembly and promoted it, amongst other 'alternative therapies' - either way, the way to deal with troublesome patients is to spend a little time to find out why they're so desperate for treatment, not to fob them off with pseudoscience.

O.

[Sriram]

Not as far as I'm aware, I was given to understand that he genuinely accepted it, even went to the World Health Assembly and promoted it, amongst other 'alternative therapies' - either way, the way to deal with troublesome patients is to spend a little time to find out why they're so desperate for treatment, not to fob them off with pseudoscience.

O.

Well...Prince Charles was in my city recently for a week or so with Camilla and friends to undergo homeopathic and naturopathy treatment. Sarah Ferguson and some European royals also visit this place for treatment quite often. 

[ProfessorDavey]

I feel rather sorry for Charlie-boy. He is an intelligent and capable man who has been under house-arrest since 1958 with only one constitutional duty to perform. And that hasn't happened yet - his mother is still alive. He has been the longest serving Prince of Wales, he may be one of the shortest serving monarchs.

Not sure I feel sorry for him as he has been able to live a life of luxury without having to earn a penny. Not sure also that he will be a particularly short serving monarch. If he lives as long as his father (who is nearly 100) then he could be monarch for 20 years or more, which would of course mean William in exactly the same position as Charles - waiting decades longer until he attains the top job.

And with the improvements in healthcare this will be our lot - the direct line of heirs to the throne (Charles, William, George, etc) brought up to do a particular job, attaining adulthood and with no proper job for decades until that job finally becomes available in their 60s or 70s. That isn't good as their star always wanes during that long wait.

[Walter]

Not as far as I'm aware, I was given to understand that he genuinely accepted it, even went to the World Health Assembly and promoted it, amongst other 'alternative therapies' - either way, the way to deal with troublesome patients is to spend a little time to find out why they're so desperate for treatment, not to fob them off with pseudoscience.

O.

Outrider

Your attitudes are far to liberal for my liking . Pseudoscience is far too good for them 😱👽

[ippy]

Not as far as I'm aware, I was given to understand that he genuinely accepted it, even went to the World Health Assembly and promoted it, amongst other 'alternative therapies' - either way, the way to deal with troublesome patients is to spend a little time to find out why they're so desperate for treatment, not to fob them off with pseudoscience.

O.

My brother reckoned the best way of keeping time wasting patients away from the surgery was by employing dragon Ladies working at the reception desk and on the phones.

Regards, ippy. 

[Outrider]

My brother reckoned the best way of keeping time wasting patients away from the surgery was by employing dragon Ladies working at the reception desk and on the phones.

Regards, ippy.

Health care and social care are two points on a spectrum - if a patient is turning up to a surgery with a need that need should be addressed.  Sending them away because it can't be treated with a pill or a bandage doesn't make them better, doesn't prevent them coming back again.

O.

[Anchorman]

Not as far as I'm aware, I was given to understand that he genuinely accepted it, even went to the World Health Assembly and promoted it, amongst other 'alternative therapies' - either way, the way to deal with troublesome patients is to spend a little time to find out why they're so desperate for treatment, not to fob them off with pseudoscience.

O.

   


Oh, he STILL accepts it.
As evidence, I cite the homeopathy garden in the Dumfries Hiouse estate - a few miles from my gaffe.
Ye, old Chairlie has done some remarkable things with the ex-ancestral pile; though he's had some daft ideas as well - creating a Scottish version of 'Poundbury' called 'Knockroon' has been less than successful.
Dumfries House seems to be an attempt by him to plump up his popularity as 'Duke of Rothesay' up here - and to some extent, amongst the literati, he has successded - though most of the locals treat him as a joke to be pitied
Chairlie and Cmalla have a flat in Dumfries House, which they use as an alternative to Sandringham or Balmoral.

[Walter]

Anchs
When you say 'flat' do you mean a bed sit type with a sink and gas stove at one end? 👍😂😂😂

[Anchorman]

Anchs
When you say 'flat' do you mean a bed sit type with a sink and gas stove at one end? 👍😂😂😂

   



It's definately a bedsit.
Dunno about the kitchen - ask his butler.

[ippy]

Health care and social care are two points on a spectrum - if a patient is turning up to a surgery with a need that need should be addressed.  Sending them away because it can't be treated with a pill or a bandage doesn't make them better, doesn't prevent them coming back again.

O.

There's always a few hypochondriacs around Outrider, how many unnecessary caveats do we need to write into our posts potentially involving thousands more words in order to have some normality of understanding within our written form of conversation on this forum, I'm sure you understood my post, I wasn't setting out to write a legal document I didn't think it was a forum requirement.

ippy.

[Walter]

There's always a few hypochondriacs around Outrider, how many unnecessary caveats do we need to write into our posts potentially involving thousands more words in order to have some normality of understanding within our written form of conversation on this forum, I'm sure you understood my post, I wasn't setting out to write a legal document I didn't think it was a forum requirement.

ippy.

well said ippy 👍

[jeremyp]

Arguably, i.e. Scotland.  Certainly there's a portion of the populace that thinks the Act of Union didn't create an equal union at all, and that Scotland is treated as an appendage to England.

O.

Considering that, except in geographic area, Scotland is smaller than London, it's not really surprising.

[Nearly Sane]

Considering that, except in geographic area, Scotland is smaller than London, it's not really surprising.

and to be fair it's not just Scotland that might feel like an appendage of London.

[ad_orientem]

I've had many views during my time, but I've come to the conclusion that if by nationalism you mean some sort of allegiance or elevation of the state, then I'm definitely not a nationalist. I do hold allegiance to the land and the people who have lived and died on it though. As for globalisation, if it means a process towards one world state and homogeny, then I reject that too.