Coronavirus

[Nearly Sane]

And more ffs!


https://thenantwichnews.co.uk/2020/03/24/nantwich-firm-blasts-government-over-delay-after-offering-5000-ventilators/

[Nearly Sane]

And now Boris Johnson has cv

[Aruntraveller]

I realise that it's fashionable and macho to be cynical about other people, but people seem to be behaving well so far, apart from an inevitasble few idiots.

I'm not being cynical about other people. I'm cynical about our political leaders. Trump being the most visible problem.

But also, whisper it quietly, what is Putin up to while all our attention is on Covid 19:

https://news.sky.com/story/royal-navy-shadows-russian-warships-after-high-levels-of-activity-in-channel-and-north-sea-11963865

[SteveH]

Bojo's got the lurgi!

[Nearly Sane]

Lots of people asking why Johnson got tested with mild symptoms. I bow to no one in my dislike for him. But it seems sensible to test the PM in this situation.

[Gordon]

Bojo's got the lurgi!

Hope he isolates - permanently.

[Nearly Sane]

Hope he isolates - permanently.

Then we would have Dominic Raab in his place. As noted in earlier post I really don't like Johnson but joking about him having the virus feels off, particularly given he has a pregnant partner.

[Roses]

I hope his partner doesn't get it.

I wouldn't cry any tears if Trump tested positive for the virus and had to be in lock down, away from public office, until the next millennium!

[Walter]

Hope he isolates - permanently.

yeah !

like I said earlier , off you go to 10 Downing street Gordo . We all know you're the man for the job 

[Roses]

Apparently Boris is still in charge of running the Government by video conferencing.

[Udayana]

Expect all that cycling ... has helped his CV system stay in reasonable shape ?

[Nearly Sane]

Apparently Boris is still in charge of running the Government by video conferencing.

Not sure if that is the best message. It's a difficult one.

[ProfessorDavey]

Not sure if that is the best message. It's a difficult one.

Given that the rest of the country is effectively continuing to work via video conferencing I don't think the optics are bad.

Actually for a while I thought the optics (until a couple of days ago) of the daily press conference with three people not 2 metres apart in front of a packed room of journalists was terrible.

I suspect quite a few of those journalists will be scrambling to get tested now!

[Nearly Sane]

Of course this means that this hasn't aged well



https://youtu.be/1IM9jd3XCF0

[Roses]

I wonder how many MPs and member of the general public have picked up the virus from Boris, as he insisted on shaking hands with people?

[SteveH]

Shake hands with him? I wouldn't piss on him if he was on fire.

[SteveH]

Boris Johnson has Covid-19. "I've got a nasty headache, and it's making me feel sick", said the virus.

[jeremyp]

I wonder how many MPs and member of the general public have picked up the virus from Boris, as he insisted on shaking hands with people?

Did he insist on shaking hands with people?

I'm actually quite surprised more members of the government haven't got it given that Nadine Dorries tested positive a while ago.

[Nearly Sane]

Did he insist on shaking hands with people?

I'm actually quite surprised more members of the government haven't got it given that Nadine Dorries tested positive a while ago.

Matt Hancock now as well

[Nearly Sane]

This just underlines how much lack of planning and slow reactions seem built into the govt's approach


https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/health/2020/03/government-documents-show-no-planning-ventilators-event-pandemic#click=https:%2F%2Ft.co%2FognVSpUVJ3

[jeremyp]

This just underlines how much lack of planning and slow reactions seem built into the govt's approach


https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/health/2020/03/government-documents-show-no-planning-ventilators-event-pandemic#click=https:%2F%2Ft.co%2FognVSpUVJ3

It's actually an interesting problem. The FT article I posted yesterday says the government is trying to procure 60,000 ventilators. I doubt if any level of planning would have had the government procure that many, and if they did, where would they store them and wouldn't they need regular inspections  to make sure they remain serviceable?

If we manage to get through this with nobody  in the UK dying through lack of ventilators you could argue that the strategy of the mad scramble to make them now has paid off.

[Nearly Sane]

It's actually an interesting problem. The FT article I posted yesterday says the government is trying to procure 60,000 ventilators. I doubt if any level of planning would have had the government procure that many, and if they did, where would they store them and wouldn't they need regular inspections  to make sure they remain serviceable?

If we manage to get through this with nobody  in the UK dying through lack of ventilators you could argue that the strategy of the mad scramble to make them now has paid off.

  And yet it took them weeks to start the mad scramble, and even as they scramble they seem bumbling and inept as per this posted earlier.

https://thenantwichnews.co.uk/2020/03/24/nantwich-firm-blasts-government-over-delay-after-offering-5000-ventilators/


The main issue is not the number of ventilators atockpiled, it's that there was no plan about what should be done were a large number needed despite that being part of the scenario.

[Udayana]

Yep, bad planning is bad planning no matter what the outcome.

It's just incompetence on the part of politicians, advisers and civil servants.

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)30727-3/fulltext

[Roses]

I have just seen that there is likely to be a world condom shortage as the biggest manufacturer of them is stopping production due to the virus, that is very bad news indeed.

[Nearly Sane]

My friend has been put onto a ventilator, while she doesn't have any underlying conditions, it's a severe form of the virus and she is likely to be on the ventilator for weeks. I can't go and see her, I can't meet her husband to give him a hug. Fucking virus.