Author Topic: Coronavirus (Read 248682 times)

Udayana · « **Reply #2500 on:** June 12, 2020, 12:40:40 PM »

This is from a month ago, May 12th:

https://foreignpolicy.com/2020/05/12/coronavirus-tracking-tracing-apps-cant-work-south-korea-singapore-australia/

"If you think tracking apps will keep people safe as economies reopen, look to South Korea, Singapore, and Australia to see why you’re mistaken."

Wouldn't everything be so much easier if we had a government/leaders that people could trust?

jeremyp · « **Reply #2501 on:** June 12, 2020, 01:05:37 PM »

Quote from: Nearly Sane on June 12, 2020, 12:07:52 PM

There is more than one way to underthink these things - they didn't work with other countries

Neither did many of the other countries.

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they wanted their own splash so they didn't think through what impact that might have, The issues with data and a third party supplier were an obvious question

Which I think they addressed. The data issues were really not as bad as the detractors were making out.

jeremyp · « **Reply #2502 on:** June 12, 2020, 01:13:52 PM »

Quote from: Udayana on June 12, 2020, 12:40:40 PM

This is from a month ago, May 12th:

https://foreignpolicy.com/2020/05/12/coronavirus-tracking-tracing-apps-cant-work-south-korea-singapore-australia/

"If you think tracking apps will keep people safe as economies reopen, look to South Korea, Singapore, and Australia to see why you’re mistaken."

Wouldn't everything be so much easier if we had a government/leaders that people could trust?

Yes it would but I don't see how that article relates. If anybody in our government bothered to read it (and why should they?) they clearly didn't just assume it was right. The government did their own trial and the conclusion seems to be that the app doesn't have enough value to move forward with it. There's plenty to criticise the government over, so why make up criticisms about something that they seem to have been responsible about?

ad_orientem · « **Reply #2503 on:** June 12, 2020, 08:10:58 PM »

The government decided to open our borders to Norway, Iceland, Denmark, Estonia, Latvia and Lithuainia. Good stuff as far as I'm concerned, as we all have a similar, that is, a good situation. Sweden is not included in that. The Swedes were, apparently, very disappointed at Finland because of that (what about the other countries?). I'm sure Sweden still sees us as a vassal state. Maybe they need to look in the mirror, particularly their failed corona strategy.

Nearly Sane · « **Reply #2504 on:** June 12, 2020, 09:44:09 PM »

Of course

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/coronavirus-chief-nurse-dominic-cummings-ruth-may-daily-briefing-downing-street-a9562741.html

Nearly Sane · « **Reply #2505 on:** June 12, 2020, 10:08:58 PM »

Quote from: Gordon on May 23, 2020, 11:05:42 AM

Just seen this on the Guardian Live blog about Michael Rosen - I didn't realise he was ill, and it isn't clear if he had Coronavirus or not. Hopefully he'll recover and get back to his excellent 'Word of Mouth' Podcast (a must if you like words and their use in English).

It would indeed be Covid

https://amp.theguardian.com/books/2020/jun/12/michael-rosen-returns-to-twitter-after-long-battle-with-coronavirus?__twitter_impression=true

Aruntraveller · « **Reply #2506 on:** June 14, 2020, 12:27:36 PM »

Andrew Rawnsley in The Guardian. He's not wrong:

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/jun/14/even-tories-increasingly-fear-they-have-inflicted-the-worst-of-all-worlds-on-britain?

Nearly Sane · « **Reply #2507 on:** June 14, 2020, 05:23:11 PM »

Indeed

https://amp.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/jun/14/dominic-cummings-no-10-vote-leave-brexit-referendum?CMP=share_btn_tw&__twitter_impression=true

Nearly Sane · « **Reply #2508 on:** June 15, 2020, 11:02:40 PM »

And tragedy in Yemen - again

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/06/12/middleeast/yemen-coronavirus-deaths-intl/index.html?fbclid=IwAR1ZB08cj_kRleeWzgWsPmTmHgNSiNvJ3sI49TFGOIO3TtuBwTzDBhbvgQg

Nearly Sane · « **Reply #2509 on:** June 16, 2020, 10:44:25 AM »

Great credit to Marcus Rashford on this campaign about free school meals

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-53059683

Robbie · « **Reply #2510 on:** June 16, 2020, 12:56:17 PM »

Quote from: Nearly Sane on June 16, 2020, 10:44:25 AM

Great credit to Marcus Rashford on this campaign about free school meals
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-53059683

Yes

Nearly Sane · « **Reply #2511 on:** June 16, 2020, 01:45:28 PM »

Quote from: Robbie on June 16, 2020, 12:56:17 PM

Yes

And he's successful

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-53065806

Nearly Sane · « **Reply #2512 on:** June 17, 2020, 06:41:40 PM »

This is not satire

https://www.ft.com/content/8ea1c992-89f8-11ea-a109-483c62d17528?shareType=nongift&fbclid=IwAR2JWofJb1AAUXPhnJeVKs0Et5GZ-3J1Ft8baoV9VaVP6qvxnrB01Wp7I0c

Harrowby Hall · « **Reply #2513 on:** June 17, 2020, 08:51:57 PM »

What is the point of referring us to an article we cannot access?

Do you think that you could summarise the material you consider we should read?

Nearly Sane · « **Reply #2514 on:** June 17, 2020, 09:18:25 PM »

Quote from: Harrowby Hall on June 17, 2020, 08:51:57 PM

What is the point of referring us to an article we cannot access?

Do you think that you could summarise the material you consider we should read?

I don't know when people don't have access. I don't have subscription and can. And it's the sort of thing that would have to be read to get. It isn't a thing that would summarise well.

Udayana · « **Reply #2515 on:** June 17, 2020, 09:27:40 PM »

Quote from: Nearly Sane on June 17, 2020, 09:18:25 PM

I don't know when people don't have access. I don't have subscription and can. And it's the sort of thing that would have to be read to get. It isn't a thing that would summarise well.

Posting a link to an FT article will never work unless it has been flagged as "Coronavirus: Free to read" by FT.

It's also against their terms of use to copy/paste an extract. However if you post some suitable descriptive text (instead of only a link with no indication of what the article is about) - then that can be googled for - and usually will take the reader to the perfectly accessible FT article.

Robbie · « **Reply #2516 on:** June 17, 2020, 09:31:05 PM »

I tried to access the article earlier without success but found this:

https://www.thepoke.co.uk/2020/06/17/this-extraordinary-account-of-luxury-lockdown-in-kensington-is-really-raising-hackles/

Nearly Sane · « **Reply #2517 on:** June 17, 2020, 09:34:47 PM »

Try doing a search on the title

The awkward lessons of my luxury lockdown in Kensington

Robbie · « **Reply #2518 on:** June 17, 2020, 10:01:57 PM »

Thasswot i did

. Is it different to your FT article?

Nearly Sane · « **Reply #2519 on:** June 17, 2020, 10:06:54 PM »

Quote from: Robbie on June 17, 2020, 10:01:57 PM

Thasswot i did . Is it different to your FT article?

No, you should be able to access the article itself though

Nearly Sane · « **Reply #2520 on:** June 18, 2020, 01:53:14 PM »

But it was a world beating system!!!

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-53095336

jeremyp · « **Reply #2521 on:** June 18, 2020, 02:11:15 PM »

Quote from: Nearly Sane on June 18, 2020, 01:53:14 PM

But it was a world beating system!!!

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-53095336

I'm sceptical that it will ever work properly after the IoW trial.

Gordon · « **Reply #2522 on:** June 18, 2020, 09:40:05 PM »

After the demise of the Track and Trace app - John Crace's take on competence.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/jun/18/our-ministers-show-how-world-beating-they-are-all-over-again

Nearly Sane · « **Reply #2523 on:** June 19, 2020, 04:27:10 PM »

And more track and trace incompetence

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/technology-53105642?__twitter_impression=true

Nearly Sane · « **Reply #2524 on:** June 19, 2020, 09:12:42 PM »

'After receiving criticism for comments about Game of Thrones, Dominic Raab insists he meant no offence to the great people of Westeros, and that he remains hopeful of a trade deal.'

News:

Author Topic: Coronavirus (Read 248682 times)