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Alan Burns

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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #2550 on: June 22, 2020, 10:50:35 AM »
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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #2551 on: June 22, 2020, 12:00:53 PM »

HAve to agree with Kyrgios here. It does seem 'bone-headed'

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/tennis/53131665
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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #2552 on: June 22, 2020, 12:03:41 PM »
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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #2553 on: June 22, 2020, 05:20:56 PM »
Quote from: jeremyp on June 22, 2020, 09:37:15 AM
...if people are analysing the glass, they are not analysing children in cages (remember that? It's still happening) or packing the judiciary with Republican stooges or any of the other really horrible things Trump is doing.

Yes, this!

On a lighter note, there's a video being put to different song selections of Trump having returned from the Tulsa rally back to the WhiteHouse, tie undone, face so grim, looking so defeated.  The song selections are so clever.  My favorite, was Johnny Cash's version of the Nine Inch Nails song, "Hurt."  The lyrics are so fitting.  This is all on Twitter, btw, and I can imagine Trump is furious about it.
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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #2554 on: June 22, 2020, 10:42:34 PM »
Quote from: Alan Burns on June 22, 2020, 10:50:35 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BA7pdABvpnc

Amazing!
Indeed, but it's a pity they included the dreadful last verse beginning "When we've been there...": it isn't by John Newton (it dates from the mid-19th Century), it's got nothing to do with the theme of the rest of the hymn,  the rhyme scheme is wrong, it's got a horribly trite internal rhyme in line three, and the theology is, to say the least, suspect.
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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #2555 on: June 23, 2020, 01:52:55 AM »
Quote from: Alan Burns on June 22, 2020, 10:50:35 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BA7pdABvpnc

Amazing!

There have been several Christian Zoom collaborations local to where I live, and I have enjoyed listening to them. This reminds me of these. 
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Alan Burns

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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #2556 on: June 23, 2020, 11:18:19 AM »
Perhaps the most influential and inspirational of the Christian video responses to coronavirus is summed up in this recent reprise of the original :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y9EK8dAXl6I

And this is the original which was first broadcast on 6th March, now with over 17 million views:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zp6aygmvzM4

My dream is that we could all be united in such praise and worship.
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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #2557 on: June 23, 2020, 11:22:02 AM »
Quote from: Alan Burns on June 23, 2020, 11:18:19 AM
Perhaps the most influential and inspirational of the Christian video responses to coronavirus is summed up in this recent reprise of the original :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y9EK8dAXl6I

And this is the original which was first broadcast on 6th March, now with over 17 million views:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zp6aygmvzM4

My dream is that we could all be united in such praise and worship.

Praising god for what for pity's sake? ::)
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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #2558 on: June 23, 2020, 11:32:56 AM »
Quote from: Alan Burns on June 23, 2020, 11:18:19 AM
Perhaps the most influential and inspirational of the Christian video responses to coronavirus is summed up in this recent reprise of the original :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y9EK8dAXl6I

And this is the original which was first broadcast on 6th March, now with over 17 million views:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zp6aygmvzM4

My dream is that we could all be united in such praise and worship.
Your god is a god of blood and pain. You worship and praise a monster
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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #2559 on: June 23, 2020, 11:39:15 AM »
Quote from: Littleroses on June 23, 2020, 11:22:02 AM
Praising god for what for pity's sake? ::)
I praise God for everything.
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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #2560 on: June 23, 2020, 11:41:08 AM »
Quote from: Alan Burns on June 23, 2020, 11:39:15 AM
I praise God for everything.

Including all the pain and suffering it has caused, if it exists and is responsible for creation?
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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #2561 on: June 23, 2020, 11:59:24 AM »
I'm sure it's possible to be an atheist without becoming embittered and negative, but NS and LR provide no evidence for that, and one reason I came back to a liberal version of Christianity after my last year out was that I found myself becoming that way, and didn't like what I was becoming.
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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #2562 on: June 23, 2020, 12:07:01 PM »
I'm sure it's possible to be a Christian without becoming unthinking and uncritical but AB provides no evidence for that, which is one of the reasons I remain an atheist.

Drivel, babble, assert vaguely about an outcome that may be true for you but not anybody else, and you have a whole lot of nothing.
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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #2563 on: June 23, 2020, 12:12:32 PM »
Quote from: Constable Dogberry on June 23, 2020, 11:59:24 AM
I'm sure it's possible to be an atheist without becoming embittered and negative, but NS and LR provide no evidence for that, and one reason I came back to a liberal version of Christianity after my last year out was that I found myself becoming that way, and didn't like what I was becoming.

I have no problem whatsoever with moderate Christians, as I have said times without number.
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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #2564 on: June 23, 2020, 12:26:59 PM »
Anyway returning to Coronavirus, yet another example of the governments excellence in dealing with this pandemic.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/jun/23/no-10-not-sharing-covid-19-data-on-local-outbreaks-say-councils?
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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #2565 on: June 23, 2020, 12:42:38 PM »
Quote from: Constable Dogberry on June 23, 2020, 11:59:24 AM
I'm sure it's possible to be an atheist without becoming embittered and negative, but NS and LR provide no evidence for that, and one reason I came back to a liberal version of Christianity after my last year out was that I found myself becoming that way, and didn't like what I was becoming.
  The irony is strong with this one
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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #2566 on: June 23, 2020, 01:07:00 PM »
Quote from: Littleroses on June 23, 2020, 12:12:32 PM
I have no problem whatsoever with moderate Christians, as I have said times without number.
Indeed you have - "Many times, many, many times", like Lady Counterblast, nee Beatrice Clissold, but your attitude to some Christians is irrelevant: we're talking about your attitude to God. You remind me of someone-or-other's description of someone else as "the kind of atheist who doesn't so much disbelieve in God, as have a personal grudge against him". Why so much hatred for a being you don't even believe exists?
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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #2567 on: June 23, 2020, 01:09:55 PM »
Quote from: Constable Dogberry on June 23, 2020, 01:07:00 PM
Indeed you have - "Many times, many, many times", like Lady Counterblast, nee Beatrice Clissold, but your attitude to some Christians is irrelevant: we're talking about your attitude to God. You remind me of someone-or-other description of someone else as "the kind of atheist who doesn't so much disbelieve in God, as have a personal grudge against him". Why so much hatred for a being you don't even believe exists?
This is one of the stupid tropes that people use when people use hypotheticals. It's seems like a desperate attempt to avoid the issue that Alan Burns thinks  his god found his contact lens for him, but has set up a world full of extraordinarily painful diseases that kill children. I'm not embittered at all but I don't like vapid stupidity.
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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #2568 on: June 23, 2020, 01:50:49 PM »
Quote from: Constable Dogberry on June 23, 2020, 01:07:00 PM
Indeed you have - "Many times, many, many times", like Lady Counterblast, nee Beatrice Clissold, but your attitude to some Christians is irrelevant: we're talking about your attitude to God. You remind me of someone-or-other's description of someone else as "the kind of atheist who doesn't so much disbelieve in God, as have a personal grudge against him". Why so much hatred for a being you don't even believe exists?

My attitude towards the Biblical god character is very reasonable. One would have every right to have a grudge against it if its character is as the Bible portrays it as being, which is evil in the extreme. One hopes it is a very human creation and doesn't exist in reality.
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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #2569 on: June 23, 2020, 04:54:49 PM »
I have just come across this.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-52480133

A church in Camberwell  is selling an oil they claim will cure the Covid-19 virus. I hope these scam merchants are prosecuted. >:(
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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #2570 on: June 23, 2020, 05:10:24 PM »
Quote from: Alan Burns on June 23, 2020, 11:39:15 AM
I praise God for everything.

471,000 deaths worldwide from COVID19. You are praising God for that?

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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #2571 on: June 23, 2020, 05:13:19 PM »
Quote from: jeremyp on June 23, 2020, 05:10:24 PM
471,000 deaths worldwide from COVID19. You are praising God for that?
Alan has previously stated that he regards the Holocaust as a miracle
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Alan Burns

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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #2572 on: June 23, 2020, 05:28:34 PM »
Quote from: Nearly Sane on June 23, 2020, 05:13:19 PM
Alan has previously stated that he regards the Holocaust as a miracle
I have never stated such thing.
I believe I claimed that miracles occurred within the dreadful evil of the holocaust.
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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #2573 on: June 23, 2020, 05:29:55 PM »
Quote from: Alan Burns on June 23, 2020, 05:28:34 PM
I have never stated such thing.
I believe I claimed that miracles occurred within the dreadful evil of the holocaust.

God, if it exists, should have prevented the holocaust.
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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #2574 on: June 23, 2020, 05:33:44 PM »
Quote from: Alan Burns on June 23, 2020, 05:28:34 PM
I have never stated such thing.
I believe I claimed that miracles occurred within the dreadful evil of the holocaust.
We had a discussion once that since you believe  all actions of your idea of 'free will' to be miracles, and the act of the Holocaust to be acts of 'free will' then it is a set of miracles. Are you saying you disagree with this now?
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