Coronavirus

[Nearly Sane]

My old man was a binman. I read this thread and thought of him and my immense pride in him.


https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1238682500085338112.html?fbclid=IwAR0bhf5miJXTTO-hIEC32_OYhf09oWMmLQWHGEwg7X3yDiFVFpXxO6wAGWY

[Nearly Sane]

I am a little baffled by the whole idea that give  we have been watching the slow spread of a respiratory disease we have the UK health secretary openly admitting that we have done effectively nothing  over the number of respirators in the last 2 months, and that this hasn't been being chased by the Scottish govt either

[Nearly Sane]

Amazingly this is not satire. And is why satire is dead


https://metro.co.uk/2020/02/28/liam-gallagher-thought-coronavirus-house-just-hot-confusing-scary-12321292/

[Roses]

The UK death toll is now 35!

[Walter]

As long as pubs and restaurants are still open, I don't see why churches shouldn't be, with suitable precautions. My church, starting today, is using wafers only at communion ("communion in one kind", officially still valid), using a hand-action instead of shaking hands at the peace, asking people to put their contribution on a plate at the end instead of passing round a bag, not using the tiresome rattly-shaky things they miscall musical instruments (thank heavens), and not having refreshments afterwards. I think that's more than enough precautions.

you people are obviousely not praying hard enough !

[Walter]

Amazingly this is not satire. And is why satire is dead


https://metro.co.uk/2020/02/28/liam-gallagher-thought-coronavirus-house-just-hot-confusing-scary-12321292/

anyway , I've stopped watching Cruising With Jane Macdonald now, just to be safe!

[jakswan]

As regards the policy of all over 70's being routinely restricted at some point, as attributed to Health Secretary for England & Wales, it seems the Scottish Government won't be going down this route.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-51898288

Routinely restricted?

I think the policy is to advise over 70's to self-isolate, mainly due to the death rate being around 8% for that age group.

Don't know if this data is valid:-
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/coronavirus-age-sex-demographics/

[Nearly Sane]

Routinely restricted?

I think the policy is to advise over 70's to self-isolate, mainly due to the death rate being around 8% for that age group.

Don't know if this data is valid:-
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/coronavirus-age-sex-demographics/

'But Dr Catherine Calderwood insisted over-70s would not be asked to isolate themselves unless they were ill.'

[Gordon]

Routinely restricted?

I think the policy is to advise over 70's to self-isolate, mainly due to the death rate being around 8% for that age group.

That is the policy that is being widely reported as being advanced by Hancock, where the point I was making is that this approach isn't, as yet anyway, being advanced by the Scottish Government (Health is devolved to Holyrood).

Every Briton over the age of 70 will be told "within the coming weeks" to stay at home for an extended period to shield them from coronavirus, Health Secretary Matt Hancock has said....

The Scottish government has set out its interpretation of the strategy, saying it had no plans to isolate the elderly, but would instead "ask them to reduce social contact".

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-51895873

[wigginhall]

That changes things for me, as the Scottish advice is backed up by medical knowledge.   I am curious to see how the English advice is phrased, so will it be a legal requirement, or advice?

[jakswan]

That changes things for me, as the Scottish advice is backed up by medical knowledge.

The English advice is not backed up by medical knowledge?

[jeremyp]

'But Dr Catherine Calderwood insisted over-70s would not be asked to isolate themselves unless they were ill.'

Which would be no different to the advice given to everybody.

[Nearly Sane]

All pubs to be shut in the Irish Republic on St Paddy's day.

[Gordon]

If this is even just half-right it is worrying.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/15/uk-coronavirus-crisis-to-last-until-spring-2021-and-could-see-79m-hospitalised

[SteveH]

All pubs to be shut in the Irish Republic on St Paddy's day.

Bloody hell - thins must be serious!

[jeremyp]

If this is even just half-right it is worrying.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/15/uk-coronavirus-crisis-to-last-until-spring-2021-and-could-see-79m-hospitalised

It’s not the worst case scenario. The worst case scenario is that the virus is with us forever.

[jeremyp]

https://www.politico.eu/article/germany-confirms-that-donald-trump-tried-to-buy-firm-working-on-coronavirus-vaccine/

Not sure if this or the Trump thread is the best place for this.

I’ve only seen it reported in three places so far, so it might not be true. But  it says Trump tried to buy a German company developing a vaccine exclusively for use by the USA.

[SteveH]

It’s not the worst case scenario. The worst case scenario is that the virus is with us forever.

Ithink they're assuming that it will be - but by then there'll be a vaccine, and we'll be routinely vaccinated, as we are now with flu, so it's not as bad as it sounds.

[Walt Zingmatilder]

The historical precedent as far as I can see for the promotion of herd immunity is Vlad the Impaler and his unique border policy.

[Walt Zingmatilder]

If this is even just half-right it is worrying.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/15/uk-coronavirus-crisis-to-last-until-spring-2021-and-could-see-79m-hospitalised

In view of this I have moved from Touching cloth to following through.

[SteveH]

Good heavens - you're back!

[Walt Zingmatilder]

It’s not the worst case scenario. The worst case scenario is that the virus is with us forever.

It was announced as the worst case scenario....the one that would happen if they didn't put their plan in action.

If this is what is going to happen what does that tell us about the plan and how does the plan promoting herd immunity fit in?

[SteveH]

According to Matt Hancock, herd immunity is not part of the official strategy.

[Nearly Sane]

From The BBC's rolling news:

'The state-run Global Times has reported about a petition on the White House website urging the US government to release more information on the suspension of an infectious disease research lab under the Pentagon.

The Global Times noted that Chinese internet users and experts are calling for more information on whether The Fort Detrick laboratory was linked to the novel coronavirus, citing coincidental events between the lab’s closure and the outbreak of Covid-19.

It noted many English-language news reports about the closure of Fort Detrick were deleted recently, raising “suspicions over the lab's ‘relationship’ with the novel coronavirus”.

This is the latest in a series of remarks by Chinese diplomats and the state media fuelling a theory that the virus did not originate in China, but was only found there.

Last week, the official Xinhua news agency claimed that the epidemic was first reported in China but “that does not mean it necessarily originated in China”.

Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesperson Zhao Lijian has even tweeted that “it might be US army who brought the epidemic to Wuhan'


I suspect that we will have a lot of conspiracy theory govt for a while.

[Nearly Sane]

Seeing a lot of chatter from people in the UK saying they think that they had coronavirus before or around Christmas. While I doubt that this is the case, it shows the general lack of trust of the official statements.