Author Topic: Coronavirus (Read 246449 times)

jeremyp · « **Reply #4300 on:** June 15, 2021, 09:55:32 AM »

Quote from: Harrowby Hall on June 15, 2021, 06:06:00 AM

It will be interesting to learn how much of the hospitality and similar industries will respond to this.

I think the extension is prudent in the circumstances, don't you?

Harrowby Hall · « **Reply #4301 on:** June 15, 2021, 10:29:26 AM »

Yes, I do think it prudent, but I am also concerned about what appears to be a deliberate political decision to permit significant elements of the economy to bear the cost.

Aruntraveller · « **Reply #4302 on:** June 15, 2021, 10:39:08 AM »

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It will be interesting to learn how much of the hospitality and similar industries will respond to this.

Lloyd Webber has already spoken about this:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-57410819

It will be interesting to see if he follows through.

Roses · « **Reply #4303 on:** June 15, 2021, 11:13:14 AM »

Quote from: Trentvoyager on June 15, 2021, 10:39:08 AM

Lloyd Webber has already spoken about this:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-57410819

It will be interesting to see if he follows through.

What an idiot he is, the safety of the public is much more important than opening up a theatre.

jeremyp · « **Reply #4304 on:** June 15, 2021, 11:45:46 AM »

Quote from: Harrowby Hall on June 15, 2021, 10:29:26 AM

Yes, I do think it prudent, but I am also concerned about what appears to be a deliberate political decision to permit significant elements of the economy to bear the cost.

That's not the political decision. It's unfortunate but inevitable that the sector of the economy that relies on getting lots of people close together will get the worst of this.

The political decision is exempting some events from the restrictions.

jeremyp · « **Reply #4305 on:** June 15, 2021, 11:46:54 AM »

Quote from: Trentvoyager on June 15, 2021, 10:39:08 AM

Lloyd Webber has already spoken about this:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-57410819

It will be interesting to see if he follows through.

Seems a bit pointless. All the police need to do is station a few officers at the public entrances and the theatre won't have an audience.

jeremyp · « **Reply #4306 on:** June 16, 2021, 05:18:24 PM »

Today's daily summary is cause for cautious optimism I think.

The infections rose by 32% (rolling seven day average) which is obviously not good, but the percentage is less than previous days. This means that the growth may not be exponential.

Deaths remained flat but hospital admissions are going up significantly. Hopefully that's just a symptom of the fact that they are starting from a low base.

Nearly Sane · « **Reply #4307 on:** June 16, 2021, 07:02:50 PM »

That thing when you agree with Boris Johnson but realise that he employed someone he thought was totally fucking hopeless which shows him as totally fucking hopeless

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/jun/16/cummings-texts-show-boris-johnson-calling-matt-hancock-totally-hopeless

SteveH · « **Reply #4308 on:** June 16, 2021, 11:03:10 PM »

Quote from: Littleroses on June 15, 2021, 11:13:14 AM

What an idiot he is, the safety of the public is much more important than opening up a theatre.

It's certainly more important than staging the sort of shite he composes!

jeremyp · « **Reply #4309 on:** June 17, 2021, 07:41:09 AM »

Quote from: Littleroses on June 15, 2021, 11:13:14 AM

What an idiot he is, the safety of the public is much more important than opening up a theatre.

While this is true, please remember that there are people whose income is dependent on theatres being open. The situation is not totally black and white.

Aruntraveller · « **Reply #4310 on:** June 21, 2021, 09:31:06 AM »

Disturbing news from the USA:

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/jun/20/us-covid-delta-variant-spreads-vaccination-rates-drop

Sriram · « **Reply #4311 on:** June 21, 2021, 09:57:20 AM »

Republicans introduce bill to fire Fauci...

https://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2021/06/15/Republicans-bill-Anthony-Fauci-firing/8271623797953/

jeremyp · « **Reply #4312 on:** June 21, 2021, 11:07:00 AM »

People testing positive are rising by 33% and have been around this since my last post on the subject. This is exponential growth which is bad news. Hospital admissions are increasing at a scary rate (40%) but deaths are still more or less flat.

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk

I think the explanation for this is that most of the increase in infections is in young people who have a better chance of surviving the virus than older people, but I am a bit puzzled by the high level of hospital admissions if this is the case.

Spud · « **Reply #4313 on:** June 22, 2021, 05:30:40 PM »

If cases are increasing among 12-34 year-olds, admissions remain at a level where hospitals can cope, and severity is reduced, I'm wondering if that would that mean the need to vaccinate the young is less urgent? Indeed was it necessary to vaccinate those below, say, 50?

Aruntraveller · « **Reply #4314 on:** June 22, 2021, 06:08:04 PM »

Quote from: Spud on June 22, 2021, 05:30:40 PM

If cases are increasing among 12-34 year-olds, admissions remain at a level where hospitals can cope, and severity is reduced, I'm wondering if that would that mean the need to vaccinate the young is less urgent? Indeed was it necessary to vaccinate those below, say, 50?

No. We still need to contain the spread to minimise the risk of variants.

jeremyp · « **Reply #4315 on:** June 22, 2021, 07:07:12 PM »

Quote from: Spud on June 22, 2021, 05:30:40 PM

If cases are increasing among 12-34 year-olds, admissions remain at a level where hospitals can cope, and severity is reduced, I'm wondering if that would that mean the need to vaccinate the young is less urgent? Indeed was it necessary to vaccinate those below, say, 50?

Everybody should be vaccinated who can be. Young people may not be so prone to dying, but they can still have serious long term symptoms. Furthermore, the more people you vaccinate, the harder it is for this virus to spread.

Spud · « **Reply #4316 on:** June 23, 2021, 10:17:18 AM »

Quote from: Trentvoyager on June 22, 2021, 06:08:04 PM

No. We still need to contain the spread to minimise the risk of variants.

The converse view is that you don't want to be challenging the immune system of an uninfected person unless you know he/she is going to be adversely affected by a pathogen. Doing so will take away from the body's ability to respond to future challenges. If I'm not mistaken, this is why the immune system is depleted as we get older.
My gut feeling is, if it isn't broken, don't fix it.

Aruntraveller · « **Reply #4317 on:** June 23, 2021, 10:24:27 AM »

You are wrong. One of the problems with this virus is that our immune system does not know what to do with it. It doesn't know it. Therefore as we have already seen there are a wide variety of reactions form the very mild to the deadly. Whilst younger people are less likely to die, you will still get some deaths and you will be visiting on others the "long covid" syndrome. That is before we get onto the possibility of new variants that could evade both the vaccines available and our immune system.

Giving people a vaccine for smallpox or polio hasn't affected the way our immune system responds to other threats so I'm really not sure what your point is.

Roses · « **Reply #4318 on:** June 23, 2021, 10:26:19 AM »

Quote from: Spud on June 23, 2021, 10:17:18 AM

The converse view is that you don't want to be challenging the immune system of an uninfected person unless you know he/she is going to be adversely affected by a pathogen. Doing so will take away from the body's ability to respond to future challenges. If I'm not mistaken, this is why the immune system is depleted as we get older.
My gut feeling is, if it isn't broken, don't fix it.

That sort of attitude is causing the virus to spread.

Aruntraveller · « **Reply #4319 on:** June 24, 2021, 12:58:27 PM »

This maybe belongs in the joke thread, but it's not quite a joke as I do relate to it so I'll leave it here:

"The thought of going back to life without a mask scares me.........I've been mouthing "fuck off" to people for months and I'm not sure I can stop"

jeremyp · « **Reply #4320 on:** June 24, 2021, 06:50:06 PM »

Quote from: Spud on June 23, 2021, 10:17:18 AM

The converse view is that you don't want to be challenging the immune system of an uninfected person unless you know he/she is going to be adversely affected by a pathogen. Doing so will take away from the body's ability to respond to future challenges. If I'm not mistaken, this is why the immune system is depleted as we get older.
My gut feeling is, if it isn't broken, don't fix it.

We've challenged the immune systems of 43 million people in the UK so far. The vast majority of them are perfectly fine and their vaccinations will help us beat this disease.

Nearly Sane · « **Reply #4321 on:** June 24, 2021, 07:07:45 PM »

Two jags done

jeremyp · « **Reply #4322 on:** June 24, 2021, 07:11:22 PM »

Quote from: Nearly Sane on June 24, 2021, 07:07:45 PM

Two jags done

He's 83: he'd have been done ages ago.

Nearly Sane · « **Reply #4323 on:** June 24, 2021, 07:28:48 PM »

Quote from: jeremyp on June 24, 2021, 07:11:22 PM

He's 83: he'd have been done ages ago.

This joke is brought to you by the jags side of the jags/jabs divide

SteveH · « **Reply #4324 on:** June 26, 2021, 07:52:39 PM »

Hand-on-cock has resigned.

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Author Topic: Coronavirus (Read 246449 times)