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« Reply #50 on: March 02, 2020, 08:51:09 AM »
I wouldn't be surprised if some of those 'end times' dorks have discovered a verse in Revelation predicting the outbreak of the virus!
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« Reply #51 on: March 02, 2020, 09:05:19 AM »
I wouldn't be surprised if some of those 'end times' dorks have discovered a verse in Revelation predicting the outbreak of the virus!
And I'm not surprised at you having a pop at religion in a completely irrelevant thread. It might have been wiser to wait until the dorks actually did say it was predicted in Revelation before commenting, otherwise you could end up looking foolish.
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« Reply #52 on: March 02, 2020, 09:22:25 AM »
And I'm not surprised at you having a pop at religion in a completely irrelevant thread. It might have been wiser to wait until the dorks actually did say it was predicted in Revelation before commenting, otherwise you could end up looking foolish.

Prophesying events after the fact isn't very impressive.
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« Reply #53 on: March 02, 2020, 10:27:01 AM »
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-51700604

The latest news on the virus is that widespread transmission in the UK is highly likely.
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« Reply #54 on: March 02, 2020, 02:27:34 PM »
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« Reply #55 on: March 02, 2020, 03:36:12 PM »
Apparently there is speculation the Pope might have the coronavirus as he has cancelled a lot of engagements due to a 'cold'. I hope Frankie is ok, he is the best Pope the RCC has had in a long while.
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« Reply #56 on: March 02, 2020, 11:12:11 PM »
Apparently there is speculation the Pope might have the coronavirus as he has cancelled a lot of engagements due to a 'cold'. I hope Frankie is ok, he is the best Pope the RCC has had in a long while.
If it is cold-like, with runny nose etc., it prolly isn't Corvid-19, as apparently it doesn't produce that - it is marked by fever, aches, and a dry cough, but no rhinitis.
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« Reply #57 on: March 03, 2020, 08:47:59 AM »
If it is cold-like, with runny nose etc., it prolly isn't Corvid-19, as apparently it doesn't produce that - it is marked by fever, aches, and a dry cough, but no rhinitis.

Fever, cough, runny nose, sore throat and trouble breathing are some of the most common symptoms of the novel coronavirus.
"It can be more severe for some persons and can lead to pneumonia or breathing difficulties," the World Health Organization says.
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« Reply #58 on: March 03, 2020, 09:23:04 AM »
Fever, cough, runny nose, sore throat and trouble breathing are some of the most common symptoms of the novel coronavirus.
"It can be more severe for some persons and can lead to pneumonia or breathing difficulties," the World Health Organization says.
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Symptoms of coronavirus
The symptoms of coronavirus are:

a cough
a high temperature
shortness of breath
But these symptoms do not necessarily mean you have the illness.

The symptoms are similar to other illnesses that are much more common, such as cold and flu.
"are", not "include", and no mention of a runny nose.
I definitely read somewhere that one feature which distinguishes Covid-19 from ordinary flu is that it doesn't cause rhinitis, but other websites are mentioning runny nose as a symptom. You may or may not get a runny nose from it, therefore.
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« Reply #59 on: March 03, 2020, 09:28:16 AM »
So, the genious department of number 10 think leaving the EU pandemic forum to make a clean break, at a time of a potential pandemic, is a good move?
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2020/03/01/downing-street-department-health-locked-row-access-eu-pandemic/
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« Reply #60 on: March 03, 2020, 10:15:31 AM »
From the NHS website:  "are", not "include", and no mention of a runny nose.
I definitely read somewhere that one feature which distinguishes Covid-19 from ordinary flu is that it doesn't cause rhinitis, but other websites are mentioning runny nose as a symptom. You may or may not get a runny nose from it, therefore.

All the sites I have come across have mentioned a runny nose.
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« Reply #61 on: March 03, 2020, 06:04:42 PM »
A nice little diagram that shows the relative contagion of various diseases.

https://twitter.com/foodskop/status/1234220483102547977/photo/1

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« Reply #62 on: March 04, 2020, 11:37:27 AM »
Chinese media (Global Times) is reporting an interesting paper published yesterday:

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Our results suggest that the development of new variations in functional sites in the receptor-binding domain (RBD) of the spike seen in SARS-CoV-2 and viruses from pangolin SARSr-CoVs are likely caused by mutations and natural selection besides recombination. Population genetic analyses of 103 SARS-CoV-2 genomes indicated that these viruses evolved into two major types (designated L and S), that are well defined by two different SNPs that show nearly complete linkage across the viral strains sequenced to date. Although the L type (∼70%) is more prevalent than the S type (∼30%), the S type was found to be the ancestral version.
Whereas the L type was more prevalent in the early stages of the outbreak in Wuhan, the frequency of the L type decreased after early January 2020. Human intervention may have placed more severe selective pressure on the L type, which might be more aggressive and spread more quickly. On the other hand, the S type, which is evolutionarily older and less aggressive, might have increased in relative frequency due to relatively weaker selective pressure.
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https://academic.oup.com/nsr/advance-article/doi/10.1093/nsr/nwaa036/5775463

That is, there may be two forms of the virus infecting humans, S and L, the less dangerous S version having mutated into the more dangerous L at an early point. They think actions taken in Wuhan might have helped to stop the spread of L as the S version seems to be found with increasing frequency now.

ETA: https://www.globaltimes.cn/content/1181612.shtml
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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #63 on: March 04, 2020, 01:29:32 PM »
Italy closing all its schools

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« Reply #64 on: March 04, 2020, 01:53:07 PM »
Italy closing all its schools

Britain could well be doing the same if the virus spread gets any worse.

There are now 84 cases of the virus in the UK.
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« Reply #65 on: March 04, 2020, 03:08:06 PM »
Britain could well be doing the same if the virus spread gets any worse.

There are now 84 cases of the virus in the UK.


The BBC's earlier certainty about the closing of schools in Italy has been moved to being considered. If there is some attempts at mass closures in things like schools, we are going to have a lot of people who won't get sick pay, and who despite the witterings of Johnson be unlikely to qualify for Universal Credit, and certainly won't get any money from UC in time who will be affected.

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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #66 on: March 04, 2020, 03:52:11 PM »
FlyBe saying they might go bust because of coronavirus

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« Reply #67 on: March 04, 2020, 03:53:22 PM »
FlyBe saying they might go bust because of coronavirus

That doesn't surprise me.
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« Reply #68 on: March 04, 2020, 04:12:15 PM »
Apparently there is speculation the Pope might have the coronavirus as he has cancelled a lot of engagements due to a 'cold'. I hope Frankie is ok, he is the best Pope the RCC has had in a long while.

He doesn't/didn't have Coronavirus, he had a bad cold and cough. If he did he'd have the best care and despite his age, would probably have recovered.
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« Reply #69 on: March 04, 2020, 04:26:13 PM »
Britain could well be doing the same if the virus spread gets any worse.

There are now 84 cases of the virus in the UK.

None near me & I'm not saying "I'm alright Jack", I just checked online.
People generally aren't as worried about it as the media make out. Honestly nobody at work has even mentioned it - including those who've had a cough. Life goes on regardless, we can do nomore than rigorously observe basic hygiene routines& carry on.
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« Reply #70 on: March 04, 2020, 04:37:25 PM »
He doesn't/didn't have Coronavirus, he had a bad cold and cough. If he did he'd have the best care and despite his age, would probably have recovered.

I am glad Frankie hasn't got the virus, but at his age and with an already dodgy lung, he might have struggled to make a recovery.
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« Reply #71 on: March 04, 2020, 04:46:45 PM »
None near me & I'm not saying "I'm alright Jack", I just checked online.
People generally aren't as worried about it as the media make out. Honestly nobody at work has even mentioned it - including those who've had a cough. Life goes on regardless, we can do nomore than rigorously observe basic hygiene routines& carry on.
  Everyone in my area has been asked to check that they can work from home. My wife's international business travel has been cancelled. As already noted FlyBe are calling out they may go under.

As to the number of cases, is it me or is there a hint of Fibonnaci sequence in the UK numbers, suggesting tomorrow numbers will be up by around 51?

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« Reply #72 on: March 04, 2020, 04:52:53 PM »
  Everyone in my area has been asked to check that they can work from home. My wife's international business travel has been cancelled. As already noted FlyBe are calling out they may go under.

As to the number of cases, is it me or is there a hint of Fibonnaci sequence in the UK numbers, suggesting tomorrow numbers will be up by around 51?

https://www.livescience.com/37470-fibonacci-sequence.html
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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #74 on: March 04, 2020, 06:10:01 PM »
Yes I know what it is.

You might but I bet not many others do, I had never heard of it for a start.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-51743697

Italy has now confirmed it will close all schools and universities for 10 days.
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