Coronavirus

[Robbie]

Just had supermrket delivery, husband took it in. He said the driver told him it was worse than Christmas with so many stockpiling (didn't mean us, our order was normal & not big). I know nobody personally who is panic buying but have read about it online so must be different in other areas of the country.

From BBC 164 known cases in UK - "-said that of those confirmed to have the virus in the UK by 6 March, 18 had recovered and about 45 had been self-isolating at home."

[SteveH]

It would appear to be more contagious than seasonal flu, from what they were saying on the news at lunchtime.

The Guardian agrees with you. However, the death rate is low.

[Udayana]

The Guardian agrees with you. However, the death rate is low.

Depends how you look at it:

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/coronavirus-age-sex-demographics/

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/coronavirus-death-rate/

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Depends how you look at it:

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/coronavirus-age-sex-demographics/

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/coronavirus-death-rate/

There are probably many factors. Germany's figures are interesting. As of this morning, almost 600 cases and no fatalities so far.

[Roses]

The UK has 206 people who have tested positive for the virus.

[Robbie]

I agree with those who say the figures for here are not high but if any one of us or people near to us were affected we would be concerned. Some of us have jobs that by their very nature bring us into frequent contact with many other people and families, we're fortunate that the virus isn't currently in our districts but it could happen. If it does I hope I will carry on as normal as long as possible but chances are we'd shut down for a while and restrict ourselves to the telephone which would be most unsatisfactory.

[ad_orientem]

We now have 19, so up by 4. The 4 new cases were confirmed this morning and they were all people recently returned from northern Italy. Good news, as it means it's not spreading amongst the population here yet.

[Udayana]

We now have 19, so up by 4. The 4 new cases were confirmed this morning and they were all people recently returned from northern Italy. Good news, as it means it's not spreading amongst the population here yet.

Yes, that is good. Death figures are not high in Europe except for Italy, and will not be high if people behave sensibly and follow government advice.

[Roses]

Italy has quarantined 16,000,000 people!

[SweetPea]

LittleRoses

This is Professor John Oxford, I couldn't quite catch it, but I think he is a biologist and also a flu specialist. Listen from about 4mins in, he just puts things in perspective a little. Apparently, 5,000 have died in the UK from flu already this winter.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9aZKdrsiEjc

[Roses]

LittleRoses

This is Professor John Oxford, I couldn't quite catch it, but I think he is a biologist and also a flu specialist. Listen from about 4mins in, he just puts things in perspective a little. Apparently, 5,000 have died in the UK from flu already this winter.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9aZKdrsiEjc

I thought the figure was about 600. Apparently the Covid-19 strain is more contagious than flu, so more people are likely to be affected.

[bluehillside Retd.]

It's sometimes said that the sinking of the Titanic saved many more lives than it cost because the tragedy triggered legislation requiring a passenger ships to have sufficient lifeboats.

An interesting take on the Coronavirus is perhaps that it could do the same - if the number deaths it would cause in the UK is very low but the incidence of deaths from food poisoning (currently around 500 per year) fell significantly because people were washing their hands more thoroughly there could be an overall net "win".

Just a thought.

[Roses]

It's sometimes said that the sinking of the Titanic saved many more lives than it cost because the tragedy triggered legislation requiring a passenger ships to have sufficient lifeboats.

An interesting take on the Coronavirus is perhaps that it could do the same - if the number deaths it would cause in the UK is very low but the incidence of deaths from food poisoning (currently around 500 per year) fell significantly because people were washing their hands more thoroughly there could be an overall net "win".

Just a thought.

It would be shocking if it took a deadly virus to encourage people to wash their hands more regularly and thoroughly.

[Roses]

There are now 273 cases of the virus in the UK.

[Robbie]

Are there, that seems like a big jump from yesterday & there will be more tomorrow. A lot of that number will have caught the virus earlier and recovered. I'm not panicking at all but am concerned, we'll all be glad when it's over.

[SteveH]

There are now 273 cases of the virus in the UK.

Well, I hope they are kept tightly shut, asnd are leakproof.

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Over here we now have 23 confirmed cases. The new ones again were linked directly or indirectly to nothern Italy. No fatalities in the Nordic countries so far.

Germany now has over 900 and still no fatalities. Interesting.

[Roses]

There have been three fatalities in the UK, so far.

[Nearly Sane]

The 'healing' pools at Lourdes are shut because of coronavirus

[Nearly Sane]

Not entirely Covid-19 related but mainly. There is an underlying nervousness to the markets that this is playing on


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-51796806

[Roses]

Not entirely Covid-19 related but mainly. There is an underlying nervousness to the markets that this is playing on


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-51796806

The price of oil has come right down, I doubt too many people will cry about that if the price at the petrol pumps are reduced.

[Udayana]

Not entirely Covid-19 related but mainly. There is an underlying nervousness to the markets that this is playing on


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-51796806

Covid-19 is a biological phenomenon. The SARS-Cov-2 virus physically exists and affects people.

The economy is bunch of human devised rules and other fluff.

Funny if we can defeat the virus only to be brought down by a collapsing economy?
 

[Nearly Sane]

Covid-19 is a biological phenomenon. The SARS-Cov-2 virus physically exists and affects people.

The economy is bunch of human devised rules and other fluff.

Funny if we can defeat the virus only to be brought down by a collapsing economy?

I think rather like virus having a disproportionate effect on those with underlying conditions that's true of the economy.

[Nearly Sane]

The price of oil has come right down, I doubt too many people will cry about that if the price at the petrol pumps are reduced.

It will affect govt incomes so it may well affect millions who cannot afford a car. In addition will lead to lay offs in the oil industry, and indeed is indicative of a slowdown in demand which will lead to lay offs in other areas.

[SteveH]

The 'healing' pools at Lourdes are shut because of coronavirus

The RC church does not officially claim that the pools have any healing property.