Coronavirus

[Roses]

https://www.thecatholicuniverse.com/lourdes-shrine-closes-healing-pools-as-precaution-against-coronavirus-49120

Trips are arranged by the RCC for those who seek healing for their medical problems.

[Roses]

https://guernseypress.com/news/2020/03/09/first-coronavirus-case-confirmed-in-guernsey/

The first case of the coronavirus has been confirmed in my home island of Guernsey, which is rather worrying.

[Sebastian Toe]

The RC church does not officially claim that the pools have any healing property.

It had though, certified dozens of miracles eliminating from that place.
What conclusions would a reasonable person draw from that?
Would it be that the RC church denies any healing properties exist there?

[Nearly Sane]

While I posted about the 'healing'pools being closed in part because of an obvious irony, I only saw it as part of the impact of the virus. I don't see this as the most suitable thread  for a discussion of the RCC or Lourdes miracle claims.

There will be an interesting book to.be written about the way Covid-19 has been reported, actioned taken, the different attempts at spinning on it. I've seen a number of US politicians using the name Wuhan flu recently.

[SteveH]

There will be an interesting book to.be written about the way Covid-19 has been reported, actioned taken, the different attempts at spinning on it. I've seen a number of US politicians using the name Wuhan flu recently.

Not tactful, but at least accurate as far as its origin is concerned, unlike the 1918-20 "Spanish" flu, which probably arose in Kansas.

[Nearly Sane]

Not tactful, but at least accurate as far as its origin is concerned, unlike the 1918-20 "Spanish" flu, which probably arose in Kansas.

I think it's more than just a lack of tact, given the sudden concentration of statements I've seen using it, I think it is deliberately manipulative. Though we have also had claims previously from the Chinese that it isn't Wuhan that was the centre.

I'm also interested in the different attitudes taken by different govts and would be fascinated about the flow of information. Add to that the panic buying and the many conspiracy throeries and there's swathes of material.


I've been doing a quick count of the usage of the public transport that I regularly use and while I think there is a small downturn in numbers, not seeing it as very noticeable as yet.

[Roses]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-51796072

There are now 319 cases in the UK, up 46 on yesterday.

[Nearly Sane]

If you don't like Happy Birthday or God Save the Queen for washing  your hands, create your oen

https://washyourlyrics.com/?fbclid=IwAR00nOw955atRlvwEAbqkW7Y26_Y4IowQ1fnsFgCpTSVl7HaR-Gv5SONOkM

[Nearly Sane]

Paddy's Day in Dublin cancelled.

[SteveH]

Breaking News: President Trump has caught Covfefe-19.

[Nearly Sane]

The shutdown of Italy makes one wonder how long it is until we see this here. At work yesterday, I suggested that we were about 10 days behind Italy.

[Spud]

Once your skin starts getting dry, use less soap but change the towel more regularly.

[jeremyp]

The shutdown of Italy makes one wonder how long it is until we see this here. At work yesterday, I suggested that we were about 10 days behind Italy.

Hopefully, we’ll never go that far.

[Spud]

If you can't get hold of a face mask, try a coughee filter from Costa

[Nearly Sane]

Saw this yesterday and this sums up a lot of my thoughts


https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/mar/09/johnsons-coronavirus-press-conference-is-anything-but-reassuring

[Udayana]

Saw this yesterday and this sums up a lot of my thoughts


https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/mar/09/johnsons-coronavirus-press-conference-is-anything-but-reassuring

They have chosen a particular course of action that they calculate will minimize the impact to the economy and normal life - and the number of people seriously affected. If it doesn't go the way they want they will have to trade-off between the two in a state of crisis.

Given what we know from around the world, my inclination would have been to clamp down hard immediately, then loosen up as possible, from a state where we were in control.

[Nearly Sane]

They have chosen a particular course of action that they calculate will minimize the impact to the economy and normal life - and the number of people seriously affected. If it doesn't go the way they want they will have to trade-off between the two in a state of crisis.

Given what we know from around the world, my inclination would have been to clamp down hard immediately, then loosen up as possible, from a state where we were in control.

There's a graph about the impact on St louis and Philadelphia of Spanish flu when St Louis stopped big public gatherings, and Philadelphia didn't that's worth seeking out

[Aruntraveller]

This may be what NS is referring to:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6140242/

Graphs and figures are about two thirds of the way through if you scroll down.

[Udayana]

This may be what NS is referring to:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6140242/

Graphs and figures are about two thirds of the way through if you scroll down.

Yes. indeed, I'm sure they have taken those lessens into account.

I'm just feeling insecure about resilience to unknown factors - further mutations, side-effects, false info on social media, economic effects due to actions (or non-actions) elsewhere and so on.
 

[Nearly Sane]

Yes. indeed, I'm sure they have taken those lessens into account.

I'm just feeling insecure about resilience to unknown factors - further mutations, side-effects, false info on social media, economic effects due to actions (or non-actions) elsewhere and so on.

I'm not sure from what I see from the govt what they are thinking never mind what lessons they've taken into account. And in that and on the other aspects you mention, I share your insecurity.

[Nearly Sane]

This may be what NS is referring to:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6140242/

Graphs and figures are about two thirds of the way through if you scroll down.

It's similar - I can't seem to access sites with it but I saw the Philadelphia v St Louis graph elsewhere and it's similar in the St Louis v Boston one.

[Aruntraveller]

Just seen an Italian hospital consultant on Victoria Derbyshire and he implied very strongly that we should be taking social distancing measures now. Adding sadly, look what's happened to Italy.

The government is clearly not putting public health as its top priority.

I can't express this strongly enough. Do not trust them on this one.

[Roses]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-51803890

How Trump is handling the coronavirus!

[Nearly Sane]

Just seen an Italian hospital consultant on Victoria Derbyshire and he implied very strongly that we should be taking social distancing measures now. Adding sadly, look what's happened to Italy.

The government is clearly not putting public health as its top priority.

I can't express this strongly enough. Do not trust them on this one.

We appear to be about 13 days behind Italy in terms of cases - I can't see why we haven't at least switched all sports events to being behind closed doors.

[SteveH]

We'll be laughing about all the panic-buying and predictions of doom in a couple of years' time, as we squat around bonfires in the abandoned ruins of our cities.