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« Reply #675 on: March 20, 2020, 03:10:56 PM »
It matters not a jot how much, or whether, I trust him. The fact is he is in the position he is in because many Labour Party supporters voted against their leader. I challenge any of you to say how they would do better. We cannot know if someone else would have, because Boris is the one who has the position. Please do not assume my trust or otherwise in any particular politician.  And I did not vote for him at any time.

Oh ffs Susan. Pedantic somersaults. Of course you voted for him
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« Reply #676 on: March 20, 2020, 03:27:55 PM »
Not lie.
Well, unless you expand that, I have no idea what you are saying or implying.
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« Reply #677 on: March 20, 2020, 03:33:11 PM »
But whatever the UK government does on coronavirus is irrelevant to Scotland since it has its own government that can do what it thinks is the right thing (with the exception of closing the border to England). If it's going badly for you in Scotland, it's Sturgeon's fault, not Johnson's.

Strangely, closing the border and/or other internal UK borders may well make sense in the current circumstances: Cleaning up the infection in defined areas and preventing recurrence in them.

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« Reply #678 on: March 20, 2020, 03:35:44 PM »
Oh ffs Susan. Pedantic somersaults. Of course you voted for him
No you are not correct. In the vote for a new leader I voted for anyone else available other than Boris. In the General Election I voted for my local MP, who has done, over the years, a pretty good job.   
I notice you have not put forward, or backed up with evidence,  a name  as a far better alternative!
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« Reply #679 on: March 20, 2020, 03:39:03 PM »
co-op filling station has run out of diesel , refineries can't keep up with demand !

Seems odd since no ones going anywhere ?
Found one of those old fashioned garages with one pump outside but was rationed to £10 worth

Very odd since the lack of demand for petrol leading to a crash in price - that was not matched by a reduction in supply by the ME/Russia. Is that something that applied to petrol or kerosene but not diesel?

 
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« Reply #680 on: March 20, 2020, 03:41:43 PM »
Surely, food rationing is imperative.  I can't keep going to every shop in the area looking for a loaf of bread, I'm supposed to be at home, as over 70.
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« Reply #681 on: March 20, 2020, 03:47:00 PM »
No you are not correct. In the vote for a new leader I voted for anyone else available other than Boris. In the General Election I voted for my local MP, who has done, over the years, a pretty good job.   
I notice you have not put forward, or backed up with evidence,  a name  as a far better alternative!
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« Reply #682 on: March 20, 2020, 03:48:41 PM »
Well, unless you expand that, I have no idea what you are saying or implying.
He lies. Or have you just not followed politics?

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« Reply #683 on: March 20, 2020, 03:50:06 PM »
Again, it's stuff like this I really struggle to understand. It's like there has been no preparatory planning for a scenario that we have had at least 3 previous warnings of.

We were warned and have known this was possible at least since 2003. Since then we have had Iraq war, global banking crisis, austerity (with UC) and brexit. My suspicion is that no one has looked at or kept any contingency plans up to date.
 
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« Reply #684 on: March 20, 2020, 03:52:23 PM »
Very odd since the lack of demand for petrol leading to a crash in price - that was not matched by a reduction in supply by the ME/Russia. Is that something that applied to petrol or kerosene but not diesel?
my understanding is you can't make petrol without making diesel first
My guess is they're holding back diesel for the distribution network

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« Reply #685 on: March 20, 2020, 03:56:06 PM »
Anyone who isn't a lying racist incompetent thug.
aww bless , do you spend hours at night crying into your pillow ?

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« Reply #686 on: March 20, 2020, 03:56:24 PM »
Surely, food rationing is imperative.  I can't keep going to every shop in the area looking for a loaf of bread, I'm supposed to be at home, as over 70.

It has not been needed elsewhere. It is nothing to do with any shortages but the mentality of a population that elected a known liar as PM, supporting policies based on lies or self-deception.


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« Reply #687 on: March 20, 2020, 03:58:30 PM »
aww bless , do you spend hours at night crying into your pillow ?
No. I might thump it on occasion when I read posts as boring as your one here.   

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« Reply #688 on: March 20, 2020, 04:00:33 PM »
We were warned and have known this was possible at least since 2003. Since then we have had Iraq war, global banking crisis, austerity (with UC) and brexit. My suspicion is that no one has looked at or kept any contingency plans up to date.
It definitely feels that way. Policy seems mainly reactive and instead of announcing a plan, they announce things such as schools closing and then say plan is to follow.

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« Reply #689 on: March 20, 2020, 04:05:22 PM »
No you are not correct. In the vote for a new leader I voted for anyone else available other than Boris. In the General Election I voted for my local MP, who has done, over the years, a pretty good job.   
I notice you have not put forward, or backed up with evidence,  a name  as a far better alternative!

More playing with words. You voted Tory. You voted for Boris as pm. I voted Labour knowing that if theyd won Corbyn would be pm. You wssentially endorsed a lying bully who tried to get someone beaten up. Your choice. Live with it dont try to wriggle out of it.
Before we work on Artificial Intelligence shouldn't we address the problem of natural stupidity.

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« Reply #690 on: March 20, 2020, 04:08:47 PM »
Scotrail saying they are finishing most services at 7pm on a regular basis next week. Not sure how this supports emergency workers.


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« Reply #692 on: March 20, 2020, 04:16:15 PM »
No. I might thump it on occasion when I read posts as boring as your one here.
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In my head I just changed "crying" into " biting"
Now I cant rid myself of that terrible mental image 😂😂😂

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« Reply #693 on: March 20, 2020, 04:17:26 PM »
He lies. Or have you just not followed politics?
Well, I have certainly  never said that he does not lie.

I do not know whether he has lied about the virus, or if he has, what aspect it was, but he is not making entirely unilateral decisions. There are others working alongside him, including scientists and doctors.
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« Reply #694 on: March 20, 2020, 04:19:50 PM »
Well, I have certainly  never said that he does not lie.

I do not know whether he has lied about the virus, or if he has, what aspect it was, but he is not making entirely unilateral decisions. There are others working alongside him, including scientists and doctors.
  And are they saying it can be beaten 12 weeks? Or that there has been sufficient money put into the NHS? Or that the planning for this has been sufficient?

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« Reply #695 on: March 20, 2020, 04:21:57 PM »
saney
In my head I just changed "crying" into " biting"
Now I cant rid myself of that terrible mental image 😂😂😂

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« Reply #696 on: March 20, 2020, 04:35:21 PM »
More playing with words. You voted Tory. You voted for Boris as pm. I voted Labour knowing that if theyd won Corbyn would be pm. You wssentially endorsed a lying bully who tried to get someone beaten up. Your choice. Live with it dont try to wriggle out of it.

Seems rather unfair ... if everyone voted for the person who they thought would make the best MP for their area we would end up with a sane parliament. It is the people that only vote with consideration of the personality that will become PM that skew it. The system we have just doesn't work "properly" (at least my idea of properly).
 
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« Reply #697 on: March 20, 2020, 04:37:10 PM »
Marketing donut
put politicians at the top of the list of most distrusted proffesions in the UK

So there you have it
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« Reply #698 on: March 20, 2020, 04:47:42 PM »
Seems rather unfair ... if everyone voted for the person who they thought would make the best MP for their area we would end up with a sane parliament. It is the people that only vote with consideration of the personality that will become PM that skew it. The system we have just doesn't work "properly" (at least my idea of properly).

Agree but there is an issue if people are arguing that Johnson is the best person simply because of that vote.

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« Reply #699 on: March 20, 2020, 04:50:15 PM »
For the benefit of those who appear to think I am a bit like a sheep in my voting, I would just like to point out that although I long since ceased to take any active part in political matters, I do think and consider before making my decisions about voting. You may not like what my decisions are, but at least give me  the credit for thinking and considering, and not being just a gullible sheep!
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