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Nearly Sane

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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #700 on: March 20, 2020, 04:55:43 PM »
For the benefit of those who appear to think I am a bit like a sheep in my voting, I would just like to point out that although I long since ceased to take any active part in political matters, I do think and consider before making my decisions about voting. You may not like what my decisions are, but at least give me  the credit for thinking and considering, and not being just a gullible sheep!
Never thought you were a sheep. Just wrong.

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« Reply #701 on: March 20, 2020, 05:12:04 PM »
For the benefit of those who appear to think I am a bit like a sheep in my voting, I would just like to point out that although I long since ceased to take any active part in political matters, I do think and consider before making my decisions about voting. You may not like what my decisions are, but at least give me  the credit for thinking and considering, and not being just a gullible sheep!
SD

There is no requirement for you to justify yourself to anyone , especially on here
where most of us/ them are so full of .... themselves .
In other words tell them to PISS OFF 😘

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« Reply #702 on: March 20, 2020, 05:13:48 PM »
SD

There is no requirement for you to justify yourself to anyone , especially on here
where most of us/ them are so full of .... themselves .
In other words tell them to PISS OFF 😘
Piss  off

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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #703 on: March 20, 2020, 05:14:52 PM »
The press conference on the support on pay is quite extraordinary.

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« Reply #704 on: March 20, 2020, 05:19:32 PM »
And I will say Rishi Sunak is doing well. It's a badly written speech but the actions are good. And it is at least a written speech unlike Johnson's maunderings which are dangerous

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« Reply #705 on: March 20, 2020, 05:24:04 PM »
And how exactly would that work given that viruses proliferation inside our cells?!? The only way you can stop the virus proliferating in the upper respiratory tract through oral and nasal hygiene would be to kill the infected cells, and that's what our immune systems will be doing anyhow.

You clearly know nothing about how viruses function and how viral infections work

I knew from A-Level Biology that viruses replicate inside cells, and I know about inflammation and the immune system having studied physiology. Otherwise, I don't know much about viruses. But I would like to discuss it, if that is allowed? If possible without being insulted?

When viruses have replicated inside the cell, they then exit the cell. So once outside, they could be stopped from infecting other cells.

I googled to find out whether toothpaste kills microbes. The answer seems to be no. However, effective brushing with toothpaste and a decent brush does help to remove microbes from the mouth.

Pneumonia, a complication of coronavirus, is listed here as a health problem associated with not brushing teeth, along with coronary artery disease, dementia, diabetes and pregnancy complications:

"If you don’t brush your teeth and have an overgrowth of bacteria in your mouth, it’s possible to inhale them into your lungs where they can create problems such as pneumonia. Researchers reported that improving oral hygiene among hospital patients reduced cases of pneumonia by 40 percent."

https://tinyurl.com/tgudeea

Also, saliva kills bacteria and viruses, and brushing the teeth increases the salivary flow rate.

Blowing one's nose will clear it of microbe-containing mucus. That means the microbes will hang around in the tissue or handkerchief. Blowing it again with a used hanky will reintroduce the virus to the nose, hence changing hankies regularly is necessary.

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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #706 on: March 20, 2020, 05:41:00 PM »
Piss  off
saney

Thank you , I needed that 😝

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« Reply #707 on: March 20, 2020, 05:43:42 PM »
saney

Thank you , I needed that 😝

Happy to help

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« Reply #708 on: March 20, 2020, 05:52:38 PM »
Never thought you were a sheep. Just wrong.
Thank you! :)

SD

There is no requirement for you to justify yourself to anyone , especially on here
Thank you for saying- much appreciated. However, actually I wasn't saying it to justify myself - I am quietly confident enough not to need to do so.
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« Reply #709 on: March 20, 2020, 05:52:53 PM »
For the benefit of those who appear to think I am a bit like a sheep in my voting, I would just like to point out that although I long since ceased to take any active part in political matters, I do think and consider before making my decisions about voting. You may not like what my decisions are, but at least give me  the credit for thinking and considering, and not being just a gullible sheep!

Baaa - humbug  ;)
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« Reply #710 on: March 20, 2020, 05:56:57 PM »
At last, they're biting the bullet, closing pubs, etc., and paying wages.   No alternative.
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« Reply #711 on: March 20, 2020, 06:14:41 PM »
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-51981653

All pubs, clubs and restaurants here in Wales are to close as from this evening, but they can offer a takeaway service.
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« Reply #712 on: March 20, 2020, 06:37:58 PM »
At last, they're biting the bullet, closing pubs, etc., and paying wages.   No alternative.
The announcement, if that is what it is, was badly done. Lots of talk about licensing restrictions without a clear statement.

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« Reply #713 on: March 20, 2020, 06:44:05 PM »
Moreover, there is still the Brexit issue in the background, which is primarily a Tory-driven policy
And yet a lot of Labour voters voted for it. Anyway, it's off topic for this thread.

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For example, should the Coronavirus issue be one that lasts for a good chunk of the rest of this calendar year, as seems likely,
We'd better hope not, or Brexit will pale into insignificance compared to the damage wrought to the economy by the coronavirus lockdown.
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« Reply #714 on: March 20, 2020, 06:46:29 PM »
And yet a lot of Labour voters voted for it. Anyway, it's off topic for this thread.
We'd better hope not, or Brexit will pale into insignificance compared to the damage wrought to the economy by the coronavirus lockdown.
Brexit will and should pale into insignificance. Anyone who thinks Brexit is going to happen this year is wrong.

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« Reply #715 on: March 20, 2020, 06:47:35 PM »
It has not been needed elsewhere. It is nothing to do with any shortages but the mentality of a population that elected a known liar as PM, supporting policies based on lies or self-deception.
Are you saying that only Tory voters are hoarding? Can you back that up with evidence?
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« Reply #716 on: March 20, 2020, 06:48:59 PM »
More playing with words. You voted Tory. You voted for Boris as pm. I voted Labour knowing that if theyd won Corbyn would be pm. You wssentially endorsed a lying bully who tried to get someone beaten up. Your choice. Live with it dont try to wriggle out of it.
And you endorsed a useless turd.

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« Reply #717 on: March 20, 2020, 06:51:22 PM »
And you endorsed a useless turd.

Other opinions are available.
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« Reply #718 on: March 20, 2020, 06:57:04 PM »
Are you saying that only Tory voters are hoarding? Can you back that up with evidence?
Nothing in Udayana's post says that.

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« Reply #719 on: March 20, 2020, 07:13:06 PM »
Other opinions are available.
Corbyn is a useless turd. The Tory government has been an open goal for a decent opposition ever since the Brexit vote. Labour should have won both of the last two elections with ease.
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« Reply #720 on: March 20, 2020, 07:13:58 PM »
Nothing in Udayana's post says that.

Really? It sure looks like it.
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« Reply #721 on: March 20, 2020, 07:29:36 PM »
Really? It sure looks like it.
Not to me. Can you point out why?

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« Reply #722 on: March 20, 2020, 07:37:23 PM »
Not to me. Can you point out why?

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« Reply #723 on: March 20, 2020, 07:42:54 PM »

Which says nothing like your suggestion

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« Reply #724 on: March 20, 2020, 08:19:09 PM »
Are you saying that only Tory voters are hoarding? Can you back that up with evidence?

I don't know where you got that from.

My point is that panic buying and hoarding are completely unnecessary. The only reason it is happening is that no-one has confidence in what they are being told by the government. They are hedging their bets by stockpiling. They know Boris and (both sides) feel they have been betrayed by the politicians over the last 3 (at least) years. Trust has run out. 

It is not happening in Europe. It will happen in the US - because again they know that they have a liar and fantasist at the head.
Ah, but I was so much older then ... I'm younger than that now