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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #800 on: March 22, 2020, 12:33:34 PM »
Do you really think that's true?

In your position, I would be extremely concerned that most cases are going unreported.


That could be true of every country in fact.  Even so, it is pretty low at the moment in India and medical professionals say we are still at stage 2. We are hoping to avoid stage 3....or keep it to the minimum.   

So, fingers crossed. 

But it certainly didn't start in India.....


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« Reply #801 on: March 22, 2020, 12:44:57 PM »
From BBC's rolling coverage


'Iran's Supreme Leader has rejected America's offer of aid to help the country with its battle against coronavirus.

In a televised speech, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei said the US was Iran's "most evil enemy" and hinted at a conspiracy theory, also voiced by some Chinese officials, that America was responsible for the pandemic.

“I do not know how real this accusation is but when it exists, who in their right mind would trust you to bring them medication?" Mr Khamenei said. "Possibly your medicine is a way to spread the virus more.”

Without offering any evidence, he also alleged that the virus “is specifically built for Iran using the genetic data of Iranians which they have obtained through different means”.'


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« Reply #802 on: March 22, 2020, 12:52:12 PM »

That could be true of every country in fact.
It is true of the UK for sure. But I am confident that we are at least doing something to monitor the situation and people who need treatment are getting it. We aren't testing enough people but the numbers bear some relation to reality.


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Even so, it is pretty low at the moment in India and medical professionals say we are still at stage 2. We are hoping to avoid stage 3....or keep it to the minimum.   
The problem is that, if your numbers are under reporting the incidence of coronavirus, you might find they unexpectedly explode.

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But it certainly didn't start in India.....
It started in China, but blaming countries is not helpful at the moment. It's more important that we get things under control.
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« Reply #803 on: March 22, 2020, 12:59:07 PM »
From BBC's rolling coverage


'Iran's Supreme Leader has rejected America's offer of aid to help the country with its battle against coronavirus.

In a televised speech, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei said the US was Iran's "most evil enemy" and hinted at a conspiracy theory, also voiced by some Chinese officials, that America was responsible for the pandemic.

“I do not know how real this accusation is but when it exists, who in their right mind would trust you to bring them medication?" Mr Khamenei said. "Possibly your medicine is a way to spread the virus more.”

Without offering any evidence, he also alleged that the virus “is specifically built for Iran using the genetic data of Iranians which they have obtained through different means”.'

I'm surprised that the USA has offered to help Iran considering they have enough on their plate with their own cases - which also gives the lie to the idea that the USA engineered the virus to target Iran.
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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #804 on: March 22, 2020, 01:25:03 PM »
I'm surprised that the USA has offered to help Iran considering they have enough on their plate with their own cases - which also gives the lie to the idea that the USA engineered the virus to target Iran.
Well not if you think in paranoid fashion that the medicine will increase the problem. The help issue is in part related to the US having sanctions imposed on Iran, and this was a way to be compassionate but appear strong. Iran managing to leap to the top of madness league.

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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #805 on: March 22, 2020, 01:33:24 PM »

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« Reply #806 on: March 22, 2020, 01:37:40 PM »
A handy list of fake remedies etc concerning the virus:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-51735367
Before we work on Artificial Intelligence shouldn't we address the problem of natural stupidity.

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« Reply #807 on: March 22, 2020, 01:41:57 PM »
Ffs!


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-51994504
similar sights in the Yorkshire Dales according to my boy who lives there !

We were discussing wether or not it would be a good idea for me to park up on his land next to his house . I could self isolate and he could get get my supplies

I'm still thinking about it ?

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« Reply #808 on: March 22, 2020, 01:44:02 PM »
similar sights in the Yorkshire Dales according to my boy who lives there !

We were discussing wether or not it would be a good idea for me to park up on his land next to his house . I could self isolate and he could get get my supplies

I'm still thinking about it ?
Makes sense to me.

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« Reply #809 on: March 22, 2020, 01:46:58 PM »
"At the going down of the sun and in the morning we will remember them."

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« Reply #810 on: March 22, 2020, 01:48:21 PM »
A handy list of fake remedies etc concerning the virus:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-51735367

It is sad that the gullible will fall for those fake remedies hook, line and sinker without checking out their credibility first. :o
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« Reply #811 on: March 22, 2020, 02:03:58 PM »
A handy list of fake remedies etc concerning the virus:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-51735367
natural selection ?

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« Reply #812 on: March 22, 2020, 02:07:33 PM »
Makes sense to me.
thank you for your input👍

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« Reply #813 on: March 22, 2020, 02:13:29 PM »
It is sad that the gullible will fall for those fake remedies hook, line and sinker without checking out their credibility first. :o
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Unless you've spent a considerable amount of time on YouTube , you are
 probably not aware of the number of "health" channels there are and how many followers they have .
Most of them are from content providers in the US
And they are all anti vaxers too !

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« Reply #814 on: March 22, 2020, 02:26:23 PM »
Lr

Unless you've spent a considerable amount of time on YouTube , you are
 probably not aware of the number of "health" channels there are and how many followers they have .
Most of them are from content providers in the US
And they are all anti vaxers too !

I don't use you tube, but I have come across many of these so called, 'health channels', on the internet, and their, 'I believe it all to be true', followers, many of whom are anti vaxers.
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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #815 on: March 22, 2020, 02:47:50 PM »
Don't understand why we haven't restricted most of public transport to key workers. India's call seems right.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-india-51957936

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« Reply #816 on: March 22, 2020, 03:51:24 PM »
The announcement on Friday that pubs and restaurants were being told to shut without being ordered to shut lead to some places staying open. Police in Scotland taking emergency measures to shut those who have remained open. Despite my worries about some aspects of that, good.

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« Reply #817 on: March 22, 2020, 04:12:16 PM »
Don't understand why we haven't restricted most of public transport to key workers. India's call seems right.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-india-51957936

Maybe the bad ass super-forecasting 'weirdos and misfits' think that people are capable of sorting it out for themselves on twitter?
Ah, but I was so much older then ... I'm younger than that now

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« Reply #818 on: March 22, 2020, 04:37:04 PM »
I don't use you tube, but I have come across many of these so called, 'health channels', on the internet, and their, 'I believe it all to be true', followers, many of whom are anti vaxers.
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« Reply #819 on: March 22, 2020, 04:39:13 PM »
The announcement on Friday that pubs and restaurants were being told to shut without being ordered to shut lead to some places staying open. Police in Scotland taking emergency measures to shut those who have remained open. Despite my worries about some aspects of that, good.

https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/news/5412675/greenock-pub-cheers-nicola-sturgeon-coronavirus-scotland/

Apparently some new emergency powers legislation comes into force tomorrow. They need to start using it as soon as.. .

According to the Guardian rolling news the powers used today by Police Scotland only enforce closing for 24 hrs (?)

 
Ah, but I was so much older then ... I'm younger than that now

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« Reply #820 on: March 22, 2020, 04:44:23 PM »
https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/news/5412675/greenock-pub-cheers-nicola-sturgeon-coronavirus-scotland/

Apparently some new emergency powers legislation comes into force tomorrow. They need to start using it as soon as.. .

According to the Guardian rolling news the powers used today by Police Scotland only enforce closing for 24 hrs (?)

 
I think that is the intention, and Police Scotland are being adaptive to get through this. And that the incident you linked to happened in my hometown is both depressing and unsurprising.

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« Reply #821 on: March 22, 2020, 07:41:07 PM »
I see the MD of the CofE has decided that we need prayers, and has kicked this off as follows:

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May the God of all hope show us his face and his way within the darkness that enfolds us. In all things, God can work with us to transform and bring light, however desperate our present may be

https://twitter.com/hashtag/NationalDayOfPrayer?src=hash

One wonders if those praying to 'God' might ask it why it didn't step in much earlier, such as before this all kicked off. 

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« Reply #822 on: March 22, 2020, 08:55:39 PM »
I see the MD of the CofE has decided that we need prayers, and has kicked this off as follows:

https://twitter.com/hashtag/NationalDayOfPrayer?src=hash

One wonders if those praying to 'God' might ask it why it didn't step in much earlier, such as before this all kicked off.
the religious won't get the irony

Outrageous !

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« Reply #823 on: March 22, 2020, 10:13:38 PM »
One wonders if those praying to 'God' might ask it why it didn't step in much earlier, such as before this all kicked off.
One wonders if you might drop LR's tiresome habit of referring to God as "it".
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« Reply #824 on: March 22, 2020, 10:39:24 PM »
One wonders if you might drop LR's tiresome habit of referring to God as "it".

I've always done so, mainly because a gendered term implies a known characteristic when, it seems to me,  the use of 'he' is more a matter of a patriarchal tradition than I'm not wedded to.