Coronavirus

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It's been confirmed that concripts from the army are going to help the OB with road checks and monitoring of users of public transport, that only those who have a genuine reason to cross the regional border can do so. All others will be turned away. My employer issued us all a document to show the authorities at the check points. The last week or so residents from my region have been flocking to their summer cabins and to Lappland, and it's that kind of movent the government wants to put an end to. We still have one region without a single confirmed case. About 70% of all cases are in the region I live in. This hasn't been helped by about 200,000 Finns rerturning from abroad, mainly from infected areas, with little instruction when they arrive, except to isolate themselves for two weeks. Though the vast majority do, there are enough idiots amongst them that don't.

[jeremyp]

Yesterday's figures are now in

https://ourworldindata.org/coronavirus

Bad news for the  UK, unfortunately, there was a significant jump in deaths

Deaths in the UK for the last 5 days: 33, 56, 48 54 87

Hopefully, it should be obvious that deaths lag a bit, so the above is not a reflection of yesterday's lockdown measures or even Friday's closing of pubs etc.

New confirmed infections: 706 1035 665 967 1,427

Italy also seems to have had a slight regression with deaths and new cases increasing slightly.

https://ourworldindata.org/coronavirus

Zero reported deaths in the UK yesterday.

Deaths in the UK for the last 6 days: 33, 56, 48 54 87 0

New confirmed infections: 706 1035 665 967 1,427 1,452

Italy deaths and new cases have stabilised for the last few days. The USA reported nearly 14,000 new cases. That may just be a reflection of them finally getting their testing into gear.

[ProfessorDavey]

https://ourworldindata.org/coronavirus

Zero reported deaths in the UK yesterday.

Hmm - somehow think that is because the UK hasn't reported for yesterday yet.

[Udayana]

Hmm - somehow think that is because the UK hasn't reported for yesterday yet.

They have been messing about with the time figures are released:

https://twitter.com/siennamarla/status/1243104190202818561

As far as I have understood we will get figures delayed by nearly two days: today we see figures for 9am on the 25th; Tomorrow we will get figures from 9am today.
 
ETA: That applies for the confirmed cases figure. The total deaths figure is from 5pm: ie. This morning (27th) we see the updated deaths figure at 5pm on 25th. 

ETA: Seems to have settled down now: Each afternoon the cases as of 9am that day and deaths to 5pm the previous day are reported:

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/coronavirus-covid-19-information-for-the-public

[jeremyp]

Hmm - somehow think that is because the UK hasn't reported for yesterday yet.

I concur.

[Udayana]

Another short and to the point article from Taleb and friends:

https://medium.com/incerto/corporate-socialism-the-government-is-bailing-out-investors-managers-not-you-3b31a67bff4a

"Corporate Socialism: The Government is Bailing Out Investors & Managers Not You" (in the US)

[jeremyp]

They have been messing about with the time figures are released:

https://twitter.com/siennamarla/status/1243104190202818561

As far as I have understood we will get figures delayed by nearly two days: today we see figures for 9am on the 25th; Tomorrow we will get figures from 9am today.

That's a bit worrying. We already know the figures for confirmed cases is really measuring the amount of testing that the government can be bothered to do. Now they are planning to massage the death figures and, in fact, because of consent issues, we may always have been under reporting.

There is literally no way in the UK to measure the extent of the outbreak at present. Unbelievable.

[Udayana]

That's a bit worrying. We already know the figures for confirmed cases is really measuring the amount of testing that the government can be bothered to do. Now they are planning to massage the death figures and, in fact, because of consent issues, we may always have been under reporting.

There is literally no way in the UK to measure the extent of the outbreak at present. Unbelievable.

Now we are a free country, we can have whatever figures we likes... ? 

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PSG to donate 100,000€ to fight coronavirus. That's like me donating 5p.

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/52051053

[Nearly Sane]

A friend who is a nurse has just been moved into Intensive Therapy Unit with suspected coronavirus. Expected to be put on a ventilator this afternoon.

Confirmed that they have cv but not needing to be put on a ventilator.

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Confirmed that they have cv but not needing to be put on a ventilator.

Hopefully a speedy recovery.

[Roses]

Confirmed that they have cv but not needing to be put on a ventilator.

I hope they make a speedy recovery.

[Roses]

103 people have died in the last 24 hrs here in the UK, the highest daily death total so far. There have now been 578 deaths from the virus.

[jeremyp]

103 people have died in the last 24 hrs here in the UK, the highest daily death total so far. There have now been 578 deaths from the virus.

You have to be a bit careful about the figures because (as discussed  above) they have changed the way they are reporting the figures.

[Nearly Sane]

Had a phishing text about my phone account. Be very careful about the use of cv on such things.

[Walter]

Had a phishing text about my phone account. Be very careful about the use of cv on such things.

i had one about my Netflix account .
Strange really, I don't have Netflix.

[Nearly Sane]

Did the 8o'clock clap on the balcony for NHS staff. Not sure ig it makes a difference but glad to do it.

[Walter]

Did the 8o'clock clap on the balcony for NHS staff. Not sure ig it makes a difference but glad to do it.

well I can confirm it did . My daughter -in-law was made up!

I sent her clapping hands emojis cos we're not in the same room/house, 

[Enki]

Did the 8o'clock clap on the balcony for NHS staff. Not sure ig it makes a difference but glad to do it.

Ditto.

[Nearly Sane]

This is interesting and bleak

https://www.esquire.com/uk/life/a31915611/coronavirus-timeline/

[Aruntraveller]

This is interesting and bleak

https://www.esquire.com/uk/life/a31915611/coronavirus-timeline/

It sounds remarkably upbeat to me. Particularly the Month 18 Recovery section.

The article is assuming that everybody and every country is going to behave in a predictable and reasonable manner.

I feel no such certainty about matters.

[Udayana]

It sounds remarkably upbeat to me. Particularly the Month 18 Recovery section.

The article is assuming that everybody and every country is going to behave in a predictable and reasonable manner.

I feel no such certainty about matters.

Don't know about upbeat, but if things play out as suggested we would have handled the problem in, more or less, the best way now available. It would be bleak in the sense that it would be terribly boring but so much better than some other possible actions, events and outcomes.

In practice, I think there will be other approaches, in particular we will find and try possible vaccines or anti-virals   much earlier - even if with some risk, and there is some hope that they will work.

[SteveH]

It sounds remarkably upbeat to me. Particularly the Month 18 Recovery section.

The article is assuming that everybody and every country is going to behave in a predictable and reasonable manner.

I feel no such certainty about matters.

I realise that it's fashionable and macho to be cynical about other people, but people seem to be behaving well so far, apart from an inevitasble few idiots.

[Nearly Sane]

Ffs!


https://www.theneweuropean.co.uk/top-stories/boris-johnson-eu-ventilator-scheme-and-coronavirus-1-6581207

[Nearly Sane]

Real divisions in the EU.

https://www.politico.eu/article/virtual-summit-real-acrimony-eu-leaders-clash-over-corona-bonds/amp/?__twitter_impression=true