Coronavirus

[Roses]

I am sorry to hear that NS.

[Aruntraveller]

One of our nieces and my partners God child have both come down with the virus in the last 24 hours. Both, appear to have mild symptoms at the moment, thankfully.

Sorry to hear about your friend, NS.

[Nearly Sane]

A letter from Italy

https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/27/a-letter-to-the-uk-from-italy-this-is-what-we-know-about-your-future?__twitter_impression=true

[jeremyp]

One of our nieces and my partners God child have both come down with the virus in the last 24 hours. Both, appear to have mild symptoms at the moment, thankfully.

Sorry to hear about your friend, NS.

I just learned a friend of mine, his wife and their eight year old son all had it last week. Nothing like As bad as NS’s friend but he said it was really scary.

[Nearly Sane]

The official lockdown chart


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-52068546

[SteveH]

The Lurgi has reached Home Counties North Mail Centre: there were three people off sick in my section yesterday, and four today, and I had a look at the signing-on sheets in other areas, and there are people off sick in most of them. Otoh, the workload seems to be decreasing, no doubt due to the virus, so if it decreases at the same rate as the staff, we'll be ok. I dare say I'll get it soon: as long as it's a mild-to-moderaste dose, I'll be glad to get it over and done with.

[SteveH]

Remember when the worst thing we had to worry about was Brexit?

[Sriram]

The way I see it...God must be pleased with humans. We have indeed learnt to care for our weak and elderly. This is a very non animal trait.   We really are evolving beyond our animal nature....!   

[SusanDoris]

One of the things I heard, listening to several hours of info on Five Lilve, was that new 'hospitals' are being set up. The practical question I wonder is: where are they going to get all the several thousand beds from, which they will need? Will they have to physically be made, or are there plenty in storage somewhere, or what?
Stephen Nolan's interview with a doctor in Manchester, dealing with the seriously ill and dying, was a powerful one.

[SteveH]

The way I see it...God must be pleased with humans. We have indeed learnt to care for our weak and elderly. This is a very non animal trait.   

No, it isn't: many animals care for their weak and elderly.

[Aruntraveller]

Apparently You Can Get A Quick Coronavirus Test

If You Have an Underlying Wealth Condition

[Roses]

It will cost one £375 to have a private test. Worth it I suppose if absolutely necessary.

[Nearly Sane]

More evidence of the failure to plan, or rather the decision not to plan because of austerity.


https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/27/advice-on-protective-gear-for-nhs-staff-was-rejected-owing-to-cost?__twitter_impression=true

[Aruntraveller]

More evidence of the failure to plan, or rather the decision not to plan because of austerity.


https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/27/advice-on-protective-gear-for-nhs-staff-was-rejected-owing-to-cost?__twitter_impression=true

Indeed as one medic pointed out: Nice of you to clap, but if you voted Tory please don't bother.

[ippy]

The way I see it...God must be pleased with humans. We have indeed learnt to care for our weak and elderly. This is a very non animal trait.   We really are evolving beyond our animal nature....!   

You need to update your evidence about animals Sriram, indecently we're animals too, there's a tremendous amount of empathy given between animals, dogs are a an exceptional example of an empathetic animal behaviour.

What's happened with your regular science magazine don't you take it anymore, the magazine must have covered examples of animal empathy from time to time, like any worthwhile science magazine would?

Regards, ippy.

[Sriram]

In evolution there are no discrete cut off points.  There is usually an overlap of qualities from one species to another.  Some animals have human like qualities and some humans have animal like qualities.  Its a question of how much. 

The further we move from animal like qualities...the nearer we move to what we normally call 'divine' qualities. This is spiritual evolution.

[Walter]

In evolution there are no discrete cut off points.  There is usually an overlap of qualities from one species to another.  Some animals have human like qualities and some humans have animal like qualities.  Its a question of how much. 

The further we move from animal like qualities...the nearer we move to what we normally call 'divine' qualities. This is spiritual evolution.

what, you mean like starting off on pints then ending up on whiskys ?

[Roses]

Over 1000 people have now died of the virus in the UK.

[SteveH]

The chief medical officer thinks that 20,000 deaths in the UK is the least we can hope for ultimately.

[Harrowby Hall]

Go to BBC Sounds and listen to More or Less - Coronavirus Special (Radio 4 Wednesday 09.00).

The programme looks at the numbers surrounding the outbreak. One of the UK's most respected statisticians, Professor Sir David Spiegelhalter, puts the risks of the disease into perspective.

[Udayana]

Go to BBC Sounds and listen to More or Less - Coronavirus Special (Radio 4 Wednesday 09.00).

The programme looks at the numbers surrounding the outbreak. One of the UK's most respected statisticians, Professor Sir David Spiegelhalter, puts the risks of the disease into perspective.

I heard the programme last week, he was excellent as he usually is, however not sure what you mean by "into perspective" - I can't recall that he said we should be doing anything different from the current advice.
 
Was quite pleased to see the figures he had settled on were the same as mine

[ippy]

In evolution there are no discrete cut off points.  There is usually an overlap of qualities from one species to another.  Some animals have human like qualities and some humans have animal like qualities.  Its a question of how much. 

The further we move from animal like qualities...the nearer we move to what we normally call 'divine' qualities. This is spiritual evolution.

Looks like we're going back to the equivalent of caged bird picking out a card with your future written on it again Sriram, you must know this can be a bit of fun as a novelty but it is a bit daft if you really believe any of this fantasy stuff.

All of us human animals and all of the rest of life wherever you find it are evidence of the process of evolution, have a read up on the subject, it looks to me as though it's something you should be doing and need to be doing.

ippy.

[Udayana]

In evolution there are no discrete cut off points.  There is usually an overlap of qualities from one species to another.  Some animals have human like qualities and some humans have animal like qualities.  Its a question of how much. 

The further we move from animal like qualities...the nearer we move to what we normally call 'divine' qualities. This is spiritual evolution.

Any explanation for Modi's decisions in India - he seems to creating chaos, that can only result in an increase in cases and associated deaths? The whole idea is to help people stay apart and NOT move around!

[SweetPea]

Over 1000 people have now died of the virus in the UK.

Professor of virology, John Oxford said three weeks ago that 5,000 people had died from influenza in the UK already this winter gone.

[Udayana]

Professor of virology, John Oxford said three weeks ago that 5,000 people had died from influenza in the UK already this winter gone.

5000 UK deaths from flu seems fairly low given that we are now at the end of the flu season. It will be good if we can keep covid deaths down at a similar level - but to do that we need to stop it spreading as no-one, as far as we know, has immunity whereas most people vulnerable to flu have been vaccinated.