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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #1225 on: April 02, 2020, 07:16:05 PM »
When I first read this, I thought that's nice, interesting story. But it's now a huge stushie on social media with people hugely offended that it's just pointless localism.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-52127493
I clicked on the tweet and the first reply by somebody called Brexittwat (May have slightly misremembered that) was a rant about a Scottish government naming a Scottish hospital in Scotland after a Scottish nurse. I mean really?  569 people in the UK died yesterday and they post this mean spirited shit. FFS. 
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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #1226 on: April 02, 2020, 07:17:10 PM »
Granted. Statistically it might be useful but not so much if the goal is to slow the spread in the here and now.
If you can’t measure the spread, you can’t tell if your actions are working.
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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #1227 on: April 02, 2020, 07:23:03 PM »
If you can’t measure the spread, you can’t tell if your actions are working.

Ok, I'll give you that as well but to be most effective it needs follow up, like going from 4G to 5G.
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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #1228 on: April 02, 2020, 08:55:54 PM »

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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #1229 on: April 02, 2020, 09:00:50 PM »
Which is an honourable condition to be in.
me too

but i haven't got any booze !

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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #1230 on: April 02, 2020, 09:10:17 PM »
I clicked on the tweet and the first reply by somebody called Brexittwat (May have slightly misremembered that) was a rant about a Scottish government naming a Scottish hospital in Scotland after a Scottish nurse. I mean really?  569 people in the UK died yesterday and they post this mean spirited shit. FFS.
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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #1231 on: April 02, 2020, 11:00:32 PM »
Hi Robbie,

Im safe and well and currently parked up at my sons place , thanks for your concern.
I was at risk of being asked questions or being moved on and fined for being 'out' without good reason ,so after talking to my son it was decided i should come here for the duration  8)

That was a sensible move.  Do you talk at a distance through semi open windows :-)?
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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #1232 on: April 03, 2020, 12:26:13 AM »
That was a sensible move.  Do you talk at a distance through semi open windows :-)?
its a bit like that Robbie,

but there's so much open space around us my boy and I can walk together (but far apart) when ever we like when his wife is at work.
His wife is the weakest link unfortunately. It seems to be working out well.

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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #1233 on: April 03, 2020, 08:55:26 AM »
From BBC live feed

'Indian twins named after coronavirus
Welcome to the world, Corona and Covid- these are the names of newborn twins in India's Raipur city.
The boy and girl were born amid a three-week lockdown in India. Their parents say they gave them the names as a reminder of obstacles overcome during trying times that have disrupted life across the world.
In an interview with local media, the mother said it was a "difficult" delivery. "We faced many challenges and me and my husband wanted to make the day memorable," she said, adding that she went into labour on 26 March.
"The virus is dangerous but its outbreak has made people focus on hygiene and inculcate other good habits. So we thought about these names,” she explained.
Hospital staff started calling the twins as Corona and Covid soon after they were born - which helped the parents make their decision.'

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« Reply #1234 on: April 03, 2020, 09:10:33 AM »
From BBC live feed

'Indian twins named after coronavirus
Welcome to the world, Corona and Covid- these are the names of newborn twins in India's Raipur city.
The boy and girl were born amid a three-week lockdown in India. Their parents say they gave them the names as a reminder of obstacles overcome during trying times that have disrupted life across the world.
In an interview with local media, the mother said it was a "difficult" delivery. "We faced many challenges and me and my husband wanted to make the day memorable," she said, adding that she went into labour on 26 March.
"The virus is dangerous but its outbreak has made people focus on hygiene and inculcate other good habits. So we thought about these names,” she explained.
Hospital staff started calling the twins as Corona and Covid soon after they were born - which helped the parents make their decision.'

Poor kids! :o
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« Reply #1235 on: April 03, 2020, 09:16:20 AM »
I think they're hoping to gradually ease the restrictions, starting in a week or two. I suppose as more and more people get it and become immune, there's a smaller and smaller pool of potential victims, so the epidemic will naturally gradually ease off. It seems to be doing so in China.

H-GT,

I replied earlier but was re-considering and remembered this report that essentially supports the idea:

https://www.ft.com/content/5ff6469a-6dd8-11ea-89df-41bea055720b

- it was pay-walled previously but seems accessible now. The (draft) study has been quite strongly criticized as it uses parameters at odds with those calculated by other researchers. It suggests that we are already approaching herd immunity.

It could be tested if (or when)  we had cheap antibody tests to perform the kind of survey jeremyp has suggested.

ETA: FT article (definitely free to read) by Tim Harford commenting on the Oxford study)
https://www.ft.com/content/14df8908-6f47-11ea-9bca-bf503995cd6f
 
« Last Edit: April 03, 2020, 11:23:15 AM by Udayana »
Ah, but I was so much older then ... I'm younger than that now

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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #1236 on: April 03, 2020, 09:22:31 AM »
If we could get herd immunity without a huge desth toll, that'd be great, but I thought that was impossible without a vaccine (my previous post was probably wrong).
I once tried using "chicken" as a password, but was told it must contain a capital so I tried "chickenkiev"
On another occasion, I tried "beefstew", but was told it wasn't stroganoff.

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« Reply #1237 on: April 03, 2020, 10:40:12 AM »
I read elsewhere that apparently in NY, Orthodox Jews are ignoring the social distanceing rules, keeping schools open, etc. Anyone know if this is happening in this country? I tried googling but couldn't find anything relevant.
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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #1238 on: April 03, 2020, 10:48:10 AM »
I read elsewhere that apparently in NY, Orthodox Jews are ignoring the social distanceing rules, keeping schools open, etc. Anyone know if this is happening in this country? I tried googling but couldn't find anything relevant.

I haven't seen reports of any organisations in this country ignoring the lock down. In the USA there are churches that are ignoring social distancing because "God will protect them". All the churches in the UK that I know of are being sensible.
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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #1239 on: April 03, 2020, 11:17:12 AM »
I haven't seen reports of any organisations in this country ignoring the lock down. In the USA there are churches that are ignoring social distancing because "God will protect them". All the churches in the UK that I know of are being sensible.
Not quite all, unfortunately.
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On another occasion, I tried "beefstew", but was told it wasn't stroganoff.

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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #1240 on: April 03, 2020, 11:30:07 AM »
"At the going down of the sun and in the morning we will remember them."

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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #1241 on: April 03, 2020, 11:43:40 AM »
I haven't seen reports of any organisations in this country ignoring the lock down. In the USA there are churches that are ignoring social distancing because "God will protect them". All the churches in the UK that I know of are being sensible.
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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #1242 on: April 03, 2020, 12:14:13 PM »
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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #1243 on: April 03, 2020, 12:16:01 PM »
That guy should be prosecuted! >:(
and anyone who buys one should be sectioned

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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #1244 on: April 03, 2020, 04:22:05 PM »
Those UK death figures make for grim reading. Almost 700 today. Makes me sad. I still deeply care what happens there. :(
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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #1245 on: April 03, 2020, 11:11:20 PM »
Ben E King has just re-written one of his old classics, its called ;

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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #1246 on: April 04, 2020, 09:00:44 AM »
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-52161529

This is the White House lunatic's response to the US medical advice that people should wear face masks! >:( The men in white coats should put him in a straight jacket, gag him and chain him up in a cell where he can't make anymore crazy utterances. 
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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #1247 on: April 04, 2020, 09:39:28 AM »
A withering overview of the shambolic Trump and his handling of Coronavirus.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/apr/04/trump-coronavirus-science-analysis

Reminds me of the prophetic quote from H L Mencken:

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On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last, and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron.

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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #1248 on: April 04, 2020, 10:26:47 AM »
I see Ocado have stopped delivering bottled water, as apparently that one change frees up 6000 delivery slots a week.

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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #1249 on: April 04, 2020, 10:50:20 AM »
I see Ocado have stopped delivering bottled water, as apparently that one change frees up 6000 delivery slots a week.
that's terrible, everyone knows middle class people can't drink tap water ! :o