Coronavirus

[Nearly Sane]

The news today in the UK is cautiously optimistic. Number of deaths each day seems to be down from the peak of nearly one thousand. New cases seem to have stabilized and positive tests seem to be on a downward trend. Number of people hospitalized has stabilized and decreased in London - the worst hit region.

The question is given the number of overall deaths whether those numbers are in any real sense accurate.

[Nearly Sane]

Everything is fine

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/apr/15/uk-government-coronavirus-science-who-advice

[jeremyp]

Today's deaths are up on those  published yesterday.

But only slightly. The general trend over the last few days is flat.

[Roses]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-52308783

9 in 10 people dying of the virus have an existing health condition. I see dementia is one of the conditions listed, I am not quite sure how one's mental health would cause one to die of the virus?

[wigginhall]

I didn't think that dementia in itself made you more susceptible, but that it's more difficult to practise hygiene measures, keep social distancing, etc.    I don't know know how they manage in care homes.

[Roses]

Our Down's Syndrome son is in a small care home with only three residents, but plenty of care staff. I am concerned that one of them might bring it into the home. Social distancing isn't possible.

[Nearly Sane]

Good thread on govt's performance

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1249979116302012418.html?fbclid=IwAR0GdzrFD5gUwFlpo4WvLwj2gBymAgMGn6z5ise36TGcHBIsho99kZ_C5pY

[Nearly Sane]

Our Down's Syndrome son is in a small care home with only three residents, but plenty of care staff. I am concerned that one of them might bring it into the home. Social distancing isn't possible.

That must be very worrying. Do you know if they have had sufficient supplies of PPE?

[jeremyp]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-52308783

9 in 10 people dying of the virus have an existing health condition. I see dementia is one of the conditions listed, I am not quite sure how one's mental health would cause one to die of the virus?

There's Wigginhall's answer.

Also it might be a reflection of the fact that old people are more susceptible to the virus and old people are more susceptible to dementia i.e. instead of cause  and  effect we have a cause (old age) and two effects.

A third reason is perhaps that perhaps medical people are not working quite so hard to save people with dementia as they are with people without dementia.

[Nearly Sane]

From the BBC's rolling news


'More than 21 million Americans have lost their jobs in the past four weeks, new figures show. It is by far the worst run of job losses on record.

According to the latest figures from the Department of Labour, new unemployment claims reached 5.25 million in the week ending 11 April.

The previous week saw 6.6 million applications.

Much of the US population is under some form of lockdown because of the coronavirus pandemic, bringing the US economy to a virtual halt and forcing businesses big and small to lay off employees.

There are projections that the unemployment rate could reach 20% this month.

The US has almost 640,000 confirmed cases of the virus, and 30,985 people have died, according to Johns Hopkins University.'

[Udayana]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-52308783

9 in 10 people dying of the virus have an existing health condition. I see dementia is one of the conditions listed, I am not quite sure how one's mental health would cause one to die of the virus?

There is a known association between vascular dementia and cardiovascular problems, so I'd expect that to show up in the co-morbidity statistics.

https://www.alzforum.org/news/community-news/perfect-storm-families-grappling-dementia

[jeremyp]

From the BBC's rolling news


'More than 21 million Americans have lost their jobs in the past four weeks, new figures show. It is by far the worst run of job losses on record.

According to the latest figures from the Department of Labour, new unemployment claims reached 5.25 million in the week ending 11 April.

The previous week saw 6.6 million applications.

Much of the US population is under some form of lockdown because of the coronavirus pandemic, bringing the US economy to a virtual halt and forcing businesses big and small to lay off employees.

There are projections that the unemployment rate could reach 20% this month.

The US has almost 640,000 confirmed cases of the virus, and 30,985 people have died, according to Johns Hopkins University.'

I was perusing the statistics on https://ourworldindata.org/coronavirus I'm in shock because they are reporting that the USA had almost 5,000 deaths yesterday. I sincerely hope it is an error or an artefact of the Easter weekend (delayed  reporting perhaps).

[Walter]

From the BBC's rolling news


'More than 21 million Americans have lost their jobs in the past four weeks, new figures show. It is by far the worst run of job losses on record.

According to the latest figures from the Department of Labour, new unemployment claims reached 5.25 million in the week ending 11 April.

The previous week saw 6.6 million applications.

Much of the US population is under some form of lockdown because of the coronavirus pandemic, bringing the US economy to a virtual halt and forcing businesses big and small to lay off employees.

There are projections that the unemployment rate could reach 20% this month.

The US has almost 640,000 confirmed cases of the virus, and 30,985 people have died, according to Johns Hopkins University.'

saney,

flint knapping and wood working skills may be required in the future

[jeremyp]

saney,

flint knapping and wood working skills may be required in the future

In 'murica we got gunz

[Walter]

In 'murica we got gunz

don't trust them Merkins 

[Roses]

Today's UK death total is 861 a rise on yesterday, it continues to go up not down.

[ad_orientem]

I wish I'd wake up tomorrow and everything would be as it was. I go out to work but staying at home does my bloody head in. Even when I'm sick, two days at home and I start to get all fidgety and need to go out and meet people. Is this cabin fever? 😂

[Udayana]

I wish I'd wake up tomorrow and everything would be as it was. I go out to work but staying at home does my bloody head in. Even when I'm sick, two days at home and I start to get all fidgety and need to go out and meet people. Is this cabin fever? 😂

Last night I dreamed things had really gone to pot. I was forced back to work - over a faulty radio from a bunker. Family also sheltering in there...

Was quite relieved when I woke up to the Today programme
 

[ad_orientem]

Last night I dreamed things had really gone to pot. I was forced back to work - over a faulty radio from a bunker. Family also sheltering in there...

Was quite relieved when I woke up to the Today programme

 

[wigginhall]

I've got cabin fever, we were scheduled to go to Bath and Norfolk,  all off.   However, it's OK, time for a drink!

[ad_orientem]

I've got cabin fever, we were scheduled to go to Bath and Norfolk,  all off.   However, it's OK, time for a drink!

Drink cures all.

[jeremyp]

Today's UK death total is 861 a rise on yesterday, it continues to go up not down.

You mean it’s gone up two days in a row. That’s not a disaster as long as the trend doesn’t continue.

On the other hand new confirmed cases are still on a downward trend and hospital beds occupied is also on a downward trend.

Overall, not as good as yesterday but still positive news.

[Nearly Sane]

https://newsthump.com/2020/04/16/dwp-declares-captain-tom-moore-fit-for-work/?fbclid=IwAR3c3KUsP8dicufE8TUciJJMT4ow0qsZIs--JX2x5nfG8qOsfemDBaD7w5M

[Nearly Sane]

More on govts response

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/apr/15/uk-government-coronavirus-science-who-advice?fbclid=IwAR2Y0pgnkMLTxhWPRDsP1LeoFyXVh4e5rcE8rNU0BNie4wKla9TZDoWPdhs

[SteveH]

It's amusing at work in the Mail Centre, watching people doing the social-distancing dance, as they circle round each other when passing in the gangways, to keep 2 metres apart.