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« Reply #2625 on: June 25, 2020, 07:04:53 PM »
Rees-Mogg and Trump obviously have a lot in common! >:(

Did I mention here the book I'm currently reading by Nancy MacLean entitled Democracy in Chains: The Deep History of the Radical Right's Stealth Plan for America?  MacLean researched a collaboration between Charles Koch (the brother) and Nobel Prize winning economist James McGill Buchanan (who MacLean says his views on democracy and the economy make Ayn Rand seem liberal.)  Together, they've devised a plan that ultimately puts the oligarchy in control, makes everything private, and eventually change the rule of law to give them autonomous control (no more rights of the common man.)

I recommend everyone here read it. It's the playbook the hard Right are following, the obvious favorite of Steve Bannon (and the role public media plays,) and most importantly the obvious joint effort to undermine democracy and the right to vote. It certainly explains why Trump, Rees-Mogg, and Johnson so eerily look like marionettes being played by the same puppeteer. (In this case, though, the puppeteer has never been Putin.  It's the oligarchy.)
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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #2628 on: June 26, 2020, 03:02:57 PM »


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« Reply #2632 on: June 27, 2020, 12:17:54 PM »
Trump and Pence are like peas in a pod. >:(
Not realky, Pence is a career politician and obviously a committed Christian. Trump is a mad narcissist. It just so happens that their causes have overlapped.

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« Reply #2633 on: June 27, 2020, 03:49:56 PM »
Just ordered draft beer and cocktails from bar block and a half away online. By the time I got there , the order was about ready to go. 5 minutes later on the balcony with pint. A bit of the new normal that I might get used to.


One of the restaurants in the West End of Glasgow did 1,000 covers for meals prepared ready to cook at home
 Again I think many restaurants will do that as part of their business after they are open for business.

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« Reply #2634 on: June 27, 2020, 06:44:53 PM »
Somewhat confused as to why people are being allowed to fly but not go to the theatre.

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« Reply #2635 on: June 28, 2020, 09:16:30 PM »
Not realky, Pence is a career politician and obviously a committed Christian. Trump is a mad narcissist. It just so happens that their causes have overlapped.
I also don't think he's an "eejit" which makes him more dangerous.
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« Reply #2636 on: June 28, 2020, 09:25:32 PM »
Somewhat confused as to why people are being allowed to fly but not go to the theatre.

Flying is the only practical way to get from A to B in some instances. You don't need to go to the theatre.

Also, the air conditioning in a plane makes it difficult to catch the virus through airborne means. There is a danger that you can catch off surfaces - like the back of the seat in front of you - but that can be mitigated through cleaning. The air con in theatres is nowhere near as good - if it exists at all.

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« Reply #2637 on: June 28, 2020, 09:34:38 PM »
Flying is the only practical way to get from A to B in some instances. You don't need to go to the theatre.

Also, the air conditioning in a plane makes it difficult to catch the virus through airborne means. There is a danger that you can catch off surfaces - like the back of the seat in front of you - but that can be mitigated through cleaning. The air con in theatres is nowhere near as good - if it exists at all.
how many of the flights on planes are in any way necessary? Also cinemas will be open.

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« Reply #2639 on: June 29, 2020, 06:39:09 AM »
Ffs!


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/uk-england-cumbria-53210470?__twitter_impression=true
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« Reply #2640 on: June 29, 2020, 07:22:02 AM »
This might sound a bit old-fashioned, but I find myself thinking the question: Just how were these people brought up? Weren't they taught anything about care and responsibility?

Not old fashiond at all. I now live on the south coast and was unfortunate enough to witness the hoards that descended on the coast during last weeks hot weather. Not a care for the environment or locals,  but more importantly no respect for the virus currently in circulation.

Still if we have successive governments that place selfish opportunism as being of primary importance, should we expect anything more?
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« Reply #2641 on: June 29, 2020, 11:14:24 AM »
Sadly that sort of selfish behaviour would occur whichever party was in power, imo.
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« Reply #2642 on: June 29, 2020, 11:43:41 AM »
Sadly that sort of selfish behaviour would occur whichever party was in power, imo.

Rubbish. Different parties can and do set different policies which are quite capable of changing, in the longer run, the behaviour of society as a whole.

You are just resorting to the "they are all the same" argument which is simply not true.
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« Reply #2643 on: June 29, 2020, 11:46:00 AM »
Rubbish. Different parties can and do set different policies which are quite capable of changing, in the longer run, the behaviour of society as a whole.

You are just resorting to the "they are all the same" argument which is simply not true.

In your opinion. The Labour party screwed things up very badly when Corbyn was leader, he would have made a terrible PM, no better than Boris.
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« Reply #2644 on: June 29, 2020, 11:48:50 AM »
In your opinion. The Labour party screwed things up very badly when Corbyn was leader, he would have made a terrible PM, no better than Boris.
Corbyn is at least a decent bloke with decent principles, whereas Johnson, like most Tories, is an unprincipled, greedy rat-bag,
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« Reply #2645 on: June 29, 2020, 11:51:04 AM »
Corbyn is at least a decent bloke with decent principles, whereas Johnson, like most Tories, is an unprincipled, greedy rat-bag,

Nothing decent about Corbyn he supported the IRA at one time!  >:( I think Kier Starmer  would make a good PM.
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« Reply #2646 on: June 29, 2020, 11:54:58 AM »
Nothing decent about Corbyn he supported the IRA at one time!  >:( I think Kier Starmer  would make a good PM.
He supported the Irish republican cause; he opposed the violence.
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« Reply #2647 on: June 29, 2020, 12:03:35 PM »
In your opinion. The Labour party screwed things up very badly when Corbyn was leader, he would have made a terrible PM, no better than Boris.

Unfortunately unsupported statements of that nature are not convincing arguments to me.
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« Reply #2648 on: June 29, 2020, 12:13:39 PM »
No matter, you are entitled to your opinion as I am entitled to mine.
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« Reply #2649 on: June 29, 2020, 12:21:58 PM »
No matter, you are entitled to your opinion as I am entitled to mine.
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