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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #2700 on: July 04, 2020, 09:00:47 AM »
Fortunately, I do not need to use any public transport at the moment, but re headgear, I found very early on that a visor (bought from local sports shop - closed recently) is a help because it enables me to avoid the distraction of light from above.
Listening to the In touch programmes, as well as talking to the Guide chap, I think that the Gov have failed to consider the blind, who are assumed to have carers!
   




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As you know, I help (dis)organise a blind club, whose motto is 'May contain nuts'.
Despite this, we have excellent relations with the local authority, to the extent that they often ask US for advice!
Anyway, I've heard of folk just put on the register in February, with no rehab training, and, because of lock down, no input from sensory impaired experts.
With no way to be mobile on their own, yet in good physical health, they are not shielded, and therefore technically don't qualify for additional help.
We're glad to say that the local authority ignored the rules, and treats them as if they are shielded.
OK, this won't help them mentally, but it keeps them going till things improve.
As for the rest of us?
if we're competent with a cane, we're left to our own devices. I have a carer who does my shopping; others have to rely on families or friends.
Yes, I agree completely; 'out of sight, out of mind' seems to be the way we are treated.
Trouble is, though, when we live alone, we have to try and cope with the shifting sands of events, and things which seemed so normal for us three months ago are simply beyond reach. I wouldn't be surprised if this has a serious effect on the mental health, resilience and confidence of the Visually Impaired community as a whole
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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #2702 on: July 04, 2020, 05:29:34 PM »
I've no idea, but given the current quarantine rules, probably quite a high proportion.

Hmmm, maybe we can open theatres if the audience is prepared to self isolate for fourteen days afterwards.

Theatres will also be able to re-open on 4th July.

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/coronavirus-outbreak-faqs-what-you-can-and-cant-do/coronavirus-outbreak-faqs-what-you-can-and-cant-do-after-4-july

It appears not


https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/01/theater/britain-arts-future-coronavirus.html?smid=fb-share&fbclid=IwAR1-RnQ4wm_hxgbzQdeSZkZCr4OmJtAq2OBBX5q5IKT4_vPKj_hAJ0ZBSUU

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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #2703 on: July 04, 2020, 06:05:11 PM »

Hmmm


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-53288388

Camra national chairman Nik Antona said: "The government have not really been helpful with their guidance, leaving it to the last minute in a lot of cases.

"What you are finding is, some of the pubs haven't even bothered opening today - they want to see what's going to happen."


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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #2704 on: July 04, 2020, 06:18:13 PM »
Apparently Farage has been reported to the police for going to a pub when he was supposed to be self isolating, having just come back from the US after attending one of Trump's rallies.
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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #2705 on: July 04, 2020, 06:20:47 PM »
Apparently Farage has been reported to the police for going to a pub when he was supposed to be self isolating, having just come back from the US after attending one of Trump's rallies.
Pity the UK govt has undermined the regulations continually.

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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #2706 on: July 05, 2020, 09:37:05 AM »
Pity the UK govt has undermined the regulations continually.

No it hasn't.
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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #2707 on: July 05, 2020, 10:13:15 AM »
Interesting article here about Japan and how Covid was dealt with there and the possible reasons for their success in avoiding a high death toll:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-53188847
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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #2708 on: July 05, 2020, 10:23:38 AM »
Pope Catholic, bear shit woods etc etc


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-53296689

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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #2709 on: July 05, 2020, 10:39:46 AM »
Pope Catholic, bear shit woods etc etc


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-53296689

My thougths too. What on earth did they think would happen? Its not exactly a surprise.
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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #2710 on: July 05, 2020, 12:24:00 PM »
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-52898928

I found this article quite interesting. For some the days of going to the office may end, and they will continue to work from home.
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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #2711 on: July 06, 2020, 10:35:31 AM »
Matt Hancock 'explaining' govt advice on the Today programme this morning.


“There are two things we do: First of all, we mitigate the risk, but ultimately, even when you mitigate risk by having- not having social distancing, that increases significantly the risk of social distancing and we’re simply not there yet.”

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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #2712 on: July 06, 2020, 10:39:51 AM »
Matt Hancock 'explaining' govt advice on the Today programme this morning.


“There are two things we do: First of all, we mitigate the risk, but ultimately, even when you mitigate risk by having- not having social distancing, that increases significantly the risk of social distancing and we’re simply not there yet.”

You see that's what we need - clarity and then not having it, thereby increasing the risk of clarity.

I'll say we are not there yet!
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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #2714 on: July 06, 2020, 11:01:03 AM »
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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #2715 on: July 06, 2020, 11:52:20 AM »
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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #2716 on: July 06, 2020, 03:17:29 PM »
And more extremely worrying stuff. For those who say I'd like to catch it and get it over with, which I've heard on here and IRL, you may want to reconsider that strategy:

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/jul/06/coronavirus-covid-19-mild-symptoms-who
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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #2717 on: July 06, 2020, 03:53:06 PM »
And more extremely worrying stuff. For those who say I'd like to catch it and get it over with, which I've heard on here and IRL, you may want to reconsider that strategy:

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/jul/06/coronavirus-covid-19-mild-symptoms-who?

I can't get the link to download properly.
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« Reply #2720 on: July 06, 2020, 04:16:53 PM »
That's odd, works for me.  :(

The basic thrust of it is that some people who have had the virus in the "mild" version have ongoing health issues, I'll quote some of the article here:

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Some of these side effects can be fatal. According to Dr Christopher Kellner, a professor of neurosurgery at Mount Sinai hospital in New York, “mild” cases of Covid-19 in which the patient was not hospitalized for the virus have been linked to blood clotting and severe strokes in people as young as 30. In May, Kellner told Healthline that Mount Sinai had implemented a plan to give anticoagulant drugs to people with Covid-19 to prevent the strokes they were seeing in “younger patients with no or mild symptoms”.  Doctors now know that Covid-19 not only affects the lungs and blood, but kidneys, liver and brain – the last potentially resulting in chronic fatigue and depression, among other symptoms. Although the virus is not yet old enough for long-term effects on those organs to be well understood, they may manifest regardless of whether a patient ever required hospitalization, hindering their recovery process.   

(I'll try to get the link to work another way)
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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #2721 on: July 06, 2020, 04:18:47 PM »
That's odd, works for me.  :(

The basic thrust of it is that some people who have had the virus in the "mild" version have ongoing health issues, I'll quote some of the article here:

(I'll try to get the link to work another way)

That is really scary!
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