Coronavirus

[Nearly Sane]

Some interesting and confusing stats here - it would appear that the 15 worst city for excess deaths in the whole of Europe has an effective increase of 0%. In addition the lack of Italy's figures make it a problem to say anything clear.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-53592881

[Nearly Sane]

The 'schools or pubs' debate


https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/can-boris-avoid-a-winter-lockdown-/amp?__twitter_impression=true

[jeremyp]

Some interesting and confusing stats here - it would appear that the 15 worst city for excess deaths in the whole of Europe has an effective increase of 0%. In addition the lack of Italy's figures make it a problem to say anything clear.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-53592881

One thing you need to remember is that, in the long term, excess deaths will even out to 0. The UK is currently reporting fewer deaths than normal because many people who were "meant" to die in June or July actually died in April  or May. Given that COVID19 has about the same risk of killing you, if you catch it, as a normal year, you would expect excess deaths over the course of about a year to be zero (excluding indirect excess deaths).

The above probably explains why we have more excess deaths than Spain but their peak excess death rate was 2.5 times normal and ours was "only" 2.2 times normal.

A better measure would be "years of expected life lost" and I know the ONS is looking into ways of measuring that.

[Dicky Underpants]

Langage changyth notte, thou malapert knave!

I'm fairly conservative on these matters, but don't give a shit about split infinitives, for example. But I will resist the use of "I was like" to mean "I said" or "I thought" to my dying day. I may well be arrested for common assault on a bus one day, if I hear a group of teenagers using it ad nauseam

[ekim]

As replies go, that was, like, cool, Dude!

[jeremyp]

As replies go, that was, like, cool, Dude!

I thought it was like a rant.

[Nearly Sane]

Good piece on the problem of communicating changes in preventative measures.

https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/uk/2020/07/why-local-lockdowns-need-more-just-better-media-strategy

[Nearly Sane]

'Hands, face, waste of space'

[Dicky Underpants]

I thought it was like a rant.

Perhaps you don't use Bristol buses.
Anyway, to the Corona virus.

[Robbie]

I thought it was like a rant.

You mean, like, similar to a rant but not quite a rant?

[Nearly Sane]

Seen elsewhere

'In Manchester, you can be sacked for refusing to go and sit with someone in an office, fined £100 for sitting with them at home, and given a money-off deal to sit with them in a busy restaurant.'

[jeremyp]

You mean, like, similar to a rant but not quite a rant?

I was trying to be ambiguous.I was trying to construct a sentence that both exhibited the trope and was grammatically correct and meaningful.

[jeremyp]

Seen elsewhere

'In Manchester, you can be sacked for refusing to go and sit with someone in an office, fined £100 for sitting with them at home, and given a money-off deal to sit with them in a busy restaurant.'

If I was implementing the local lockdown in Manchester, I would be rolling back all the measures, not some of them. I would be mandating working from home where possible, closing the restaurants and reimposing the social distancing rules. I don't know why it has to be so difficult.

[Aruntraveller]

If I was implementing the local lockdown in Manchester, I would be rolling back all the measures, not some of them. I would be mandating working from home where possible, closing the restaurants and reimposing the social distancing rules. I don't know why it has to be so difficult.

^^ This.

[Nearly Sane]

^^ This.

100%.

[Udayana]

Like:

https://twitter.com/BrookesTimes/status/1289512758925340672?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

[jeremyp]

It occurred to me the other day that it might come to this

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-53621613

[Nearly Sane]

It occurred to me the other day that it might come to this

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-53621613

See 2851

[jeremyp]

See 2851

Why would there be a debate? If it's a choice of schools or pubs but not both, we have to give priority to schools.

[Roses]

Schools are much more important than pubs, which are more than likely to spread the virus when people are too sloshed to socially distance.

[Nearly Sane]

Schools are much more important than pubs, which are more than likely to spread the virus when people are too sloshed to socially distance.

This gives a good excuse to post this


https://youtu.be/ttRIz-0HWps

[Nearly Sane]

Why would there be a debate? If it's a choice of schools or pubs but not both, we have to give priority to schools.

Because the UK govt is deeply worried that it's lost its authority and anything they say will be ignored. So first they put up a bit of kite flying through sources hoping to get people agreeing to the schools choice.

[Roses]

This gives a good excuse to post this


https://youtu.be/ttRIz-0HWps

I can't say I found it particularly amusing. Do you have children?

[SteveH]

Schools are much more important than pubs, which are more than likely to spread the virus when people are too sloshed to socially distance.

More prejudice buttressed by ignorance.

[Roses]

More prejudice buttressed by ignorance.

Meaning?