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Nearly Sane · « **Reply #2875 on:** August 01, 2020, 04:57:34 PM »

Quote from: Littleroses on August 01, 2020, 04:39:44 PM

I can't say I found it particularly amusing. Do you have children?

Dylan Moran does

jeremyp · « **Reply #2876 on:** August 01, 2020, 04:57:44 PM »

Quote from: Nearly Sane on August 01, 2020, 04:11:14 PM

Because the UK govt is deeply worried that it's lost its authority and anything they say will be ignored.

I seriously doubt that - at least in the sense I think you mean. If they say "pubs must close" they will close. The government has all the necessary machinery to enforce that decree.

The real issue is that this dilemma is a microcosm of the larger problem, namely: how do you balance getting the economy back without filling the hospitals with coronavirus patients. If the government gets the balance wrong, it will end up losing its authority in the next general election.

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So first they put up a bit of kite flying through sources hoping to get people agreeing to the schools choice.

Much as I like a pint in the pub, getting the schools up and running must be a priority. No reasonable person would agree that pubs should have priority over schools.

jeremyp · « **Reply #2877 on:** August 01, 2020, 05:10:44 PM »

Quote from: Littleroses on August 01, 2020, 04:45:08 PM

Meaning?

I've been to two pubs and a wine bar since they reopened. In no case was I ever too sloshed to maintain social distancing. Most people who go to the pub do it to socialise, not to get sloshed.

Roses · « **Reply #2878 on:** August 02, 2020, 02:24:21 PM »

Quote from: jeremyp on August 01, 2020, 05:10:44 PM

I've been to two pubs and a wine bar since they reopened. In no case was I ever too sloshed to maintain social distancing. Most people who go to the pub do it to socialise, not to get sloshed.

It must be hard to social distance in a pub or wine bar though, sloshed or not.

I think it is in Aberdeen a pub is the source of a spike in cases of the virus.

SusanDoris · « **Reply #2879 on:** August 02, 2020, 03:10:35 PM »

Well, provided there are no unexpected spikes,shutdowns or anything else, my granddaughter is bringing Reuben to Salisbury in two weeks time, so I shal, fingers crossed, be able to see him. Something to really look forward to.
He is sitting up on the floor (with pillows behind of course in case he topples back) and has two teeth.

Roses · « **Reply #2880 on:** August 02, 2020, 03:15:59 PM »

Quote from: SusanDoris on August 02, 2020, 03:10:35 PM

Well, provided there are no unexpected spikes,shutdowns or anything else, my granddaughter is bringing Reuben to Salisbury in two weeks time, so I shal, fingers crossed, be able to see him. Something to really look forward to.
He is sitting up on the floor (with pillows behind of course in case he topples back) and has two teeth.

I hope the visit will go ahead Susan.

jeremyp · « **Reply #2881 on:** August 02, 2020, 04:45:07 PM »

Quote from: Littleroses on August 02, 2020, 02:24:21 PM

It must be hard to social distance in a pub or wine bar though, sloshed or not.

Not the ones I went in. In fact, in the wine bar, we were the only group in there. It probably won't exist in three months.

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I think it is in Aberdeen a pub is the source of a spike in cases of the virus.

If 13 new cases is a spike.

Roses · « **Reply #2882 on:** August 02, 2020, 05:05:59 PM »

Quote from: jeremyp on August 02, 2020, 04:45:07 PM

Not the ones I went in. In fact, in the wine bar, we were the only group in there. It probably won't exist in three months.If 13 new cases is a spike.

Sturgeon seems to think it is.

Gordon · « **Reply #2883 on:** August 04, 2020, 09:02:26 AM »

Open letter from Michael Rosen (and good to see him back) to Gavin Williamson about schools re-opening in England.

https://www.theguardian.com/education/2020/aug/04/dear-gavin-williamson-are-you-sure-schools-will-be-safe-in-september

Nearly Sane · « **Reply #2884 on:** August 05, 2020, 05:46:40 PM »

Aberdeen back in a form of lockdown.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-53666665

Nearly Sane · « **Reply #2885 on:** August 06, 2020, 09:54:34 AM »

'Facebook and Twitter restrict Trump accounts over 'harmful' virus claim'

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-us-2020-53673797

Nearly Sane · « **Reply #2886 on:** August 06, 2020, 11:05:21 AM »

'Safety concerns halt use of 50 million NHS masks'

'It has emerged that the person who originally approached the government about the deal was a government trade adviser who also advises the board of Ayanda.'

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-53672841

Hmmmm...

Nearly Sane · « **Reply #2887 on:** August 06, 2020, 03:40:31 PM »

Aberdeen footballer tests positive. Can't see the match meant to be played on Saturday happening.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/53682640

Udayana · « **Reply #2888 on:** August 06, 2020, 03:58:41 PM »

Quote from: Nearly Sane on August 06, 2020, 11:05:21 AM

'Safety concerns halt use of 50 million NHS masks'

'It has emerged that the person who originally approached the government about the deal was a government trade adviser who also advises the board of Ayanda.'

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-53672841

Hmmmm...

This is just another to add to the list of bad deals made by the government in questionable circumstances - avoiding competition and scrutiny .

jeremyp · « **Reply #2889 on:** August 06, 2020, 04:12:02 PM »

Quote from: Udayana on August 06, 2020, 03:58:41 PM

This is just another to add to the list of bad deals made by the government in questionable circumstances - avoiding competition and scrutiny .

Well, if you remember, we were running out of masks. They could have done all the competition and scrutiny, but that is the main reason why it usually takes months or years for the government to issue contracts.

The government cut corners because the masks were needed in April this year, not April next year. If they hadn't done the deal, people would be criticising them for running out of masks and the company involved would probably have issued a press release saying "we've got 50 million masks, why didn't you ask us".

Nearly Sane · « **Reply #2890 on:** August 07, 2020, 01:31:06 PM »

Nicola Sturgeon annoyed by Aberdeen footballers.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/53694742

Roses · « **Reply #2891 on:** August 07, 2020, 02:11:00 PM »

Sturgeon is right to be 'pretty furious' with them.

Nearly Sane · « **Reply #2892 on:** August 07, 2020, 02:30:13 PM »

Quote from: Littleroses on August 07, 2020, 02:11:00 PM

Sturgeon is right to be 'pretty furious' with them.

The points should be awarded to St Johnstone

Roses · « **Reply #2893 on:** August 08, 2020, 12:05:33 PM »

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-lancashire-53678427

I see stricter measures are being imposed in Preston as there has been a spike in the virus.

Robbie · « **Reply #2894 on:** August 08, 2020, 04:20:43 PM »

They'll go back to being no different to how they were a couple of weeks ago. It was bound to happen. I haven't looked to see where there are spikes in other places but read about Scotland.

Aruntraveller · « **Reply #2895 on:** August 08, 2020, 05:56:25 PM »

"Don't Kill Granny" - Boris pay attention that's how to get a message across.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-lancashire-53706436

Nearly Sane · « **Reply #2896 on:** August 09, 2020, 12:51:43 PM »

I could have put this on the Trump or US election threads but seems better here. Interesting article

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/political-commentary/covid-19-end-of-american-era-wade-davis-1038206/amp/

jeremyp · « **Reply #2897 on:** August 09, 2020, 04:11:58 PM »

Quote from: Nearly Sane on August 09, 2020, 12:51:43 PM

I could have put this on the Trump or US election threads but seems better here. Interesting article

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/political-commentary/covid-19-end-of-american-era-wade-davis-1038206/amp/

It may be confirmation bias but I thought that was a very good article.

torridon · « **Reply #2898 on:** August 09, 2020, 05:10:48 PM »

Quote from: Nearly Sane on August 09, 2020, 12:51:43 PM

I could have put this on the Trump or US election threads but seems better here. Interesting article

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/political-commentary/covid-19-end-of-american-era-wade-davis-1038206/amp/

Me, too, I tend to agree, America is on the way out, its had its day, hastened by the election of Trump, but the fact that he was elected in the first place is an indicator the country was already on a downward trajectory.

Arguably, the pandemic may help turn things around somewhat in the short term - out of all the unforeseeable events that could have happened during a presidency, the current public health catastrophe is one that shines a light on Trump's inadequacies more than anything else. Had it been a war, it would have played to Trump's strengths and he would have gotten a second term on a wave of jingoism. The pandemic however shows the man floundering like an incompetent buffoon and coming just before election time, it might just be enough to shock Americans who voted him in back to their senses.

Harrowby Hall · « **Reply #2899 on:** August 09, 2020, 05:27:37 PM »

But torridon, the American people did not elect Trump. They rejected him by a significant majority.

They may well reject him again, but the distortions of the Electoral College may ensure his continued misrule.

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