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thank you for reply. Oh dear, back to washing it myself! No means of making it look even vaguely smart, but since nobody much is going to see it, I suppose that doesn't matter either!!

Nearly Sane · « **Reply #3681 on:** December 30, 2020, 10:27:19 PM »

Gavin Williamson/Ted Rogers guide to schools opening in Tier 4

“Now if year 12 you be, but not in Tier 3
You’ll be back on the 5th if tested, you’ll see
For Tier 4 pre school there’s one more new rule
On the 18th you’ll return, new subjects to learn”

ad_orientem · « **Reply #3682 on:** December 31, 2020, 05:13:40 AM »

What the hell is year 12?

Roses · « **Reply #3683 on:** December 31, 2020, 10:35:11 AM »

Quote from: ad_orientem on December 31, 2020, 05:13:40 AM

What the hell is year 12?

The most senior high school year in which pupils do their A levels.

Nearly Sane · « **Reply #3684 on:** December 31, 2020, 12:22:43 PM »

Surely this is a nonsense and dangerous decision by the govt?

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9099049/Questions-Britains-decision-drop-two-dose-vaccine-regimen.html

SusanDoris · « **Reply #3685 on:** December 31, 2020, 01:15:32 PM »

Quote from: Littleroses on December 31, 2020, 10:35:11 AM

The most senior high school year in which pupils do their A levels.

Secondary school starts at year 7, so five years to O levels= year 11 and two years on for A levels = year year 13 ?

Roses · « **Reply #3686 on:** December 31, 2020, 01:48:44 PM »

Quote from: SusanDoris on December 31, 2020, 01:15:32 PM

Secondary school starts at year 7, so five years to O levels= year 11 and two years on for A levels = year year 13 ?

WHOOPS of course you are right!

Udayana · « **Reply #3687 on:** December 31, 2020, 02:18:48 PM »

Quote from: Nearly Sane on December 31, 2020, 12:22:43 PM

Surely this is a nonsense and dangerous decision by the govt?

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9099049/Questions-Britains-decision-drop-two-dose-vaccine-regimen.html

More here:
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2020/dec/31/covid-vaccine-uk-doctors-criticise-rescheduling-of-second-doses

Health workers having had one dose of the Pfizer vaccine are finding their appointments for the second are being cancelled.

It could be fine, but making these decisions without convincing evidence from clinical tests is reckless risk taking. One also suspects that the MHRA has been leant on, compromising trust further.

Still, if everything goes to pot (yet again!) I expect Johnson could blame it all on Blair.

Nearly Sane · « **Reply #3688 on:** January 01, 2021, 03:06:01 PM »

Struggling to see the rationale behind this

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-55507001

jeremyp · « **Reply #3689 on:** January 01, 2021, 05:00:56 PM »

Quote from: Nearly Sane on December 31, 2020, 12:22:43 PM

Surely this is a nonsense and dangerous decision by the govt?

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9099049/Questions-Britains-decision-drop-two-dose-vaccine-regimen.html

They're panicking. I think the reasoning is that one dose does confer some resistance and that might be enough to curb the sudden increase in infections we are seeing. I think it's the wrong decision, but it is not nonsense.

jeremyp · « **Reply #3690 on:** January 01, 2021, 05:03:46 PM »

Quote from: Udayana on December 31, 2020, 02:18:48 PM

More here:
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2020/dec/31/covid-vaccine-uk-doctors-criticise-rescheduling-of-second-doses

Health workers having had one dose of the Pfizer vaccine are finding their appointments for the second are being cancelled.

It could be fine, but making these decisions without convincing evidence from clinical tests is reckless risk taking. One also suspects that the MHRA has been leant on, compromising trust further.

It is with front line health service staff who are in constant danger of contracting the virus. If there's one group of people we should not be shafting at this time, it's them.

jakswan · « **Reply #3691 on:** January 01, 2021, 07:12:19 PM »

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/statement-from-the-uk-chief-medical-officers-on-the-prioritisation-of-first-doses-of-covid-19-vaccines

Nearly Sane · « **Reply #3692 on:** January 01, 2021, 08:16:14 PM »

Quote from: Nearly Sane on January 01, 2021, 03:06:01 PM

Struggling to see the rationale behind this

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-55507001

It would appear there was none and there's been a u-turn

https://amp.theguardian.com/education/2021/jan/01/all-primary-schools-in-london-to-remain-closed-after-u-turn?__twitter_impression=true

Nearly Sane · « **Reply #3693 on:** January 01, 2021, 10:17:46 PM »

Quote from: jakswan on January 01, 2021, 07:12:19 PM

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/statement-from-the-uk-chief-medical-officers-on-the-prioritisation-of-first-doses-of-covid-19-vaccines

Your point? That Pfizer are saying that the 3 months is an issue is surely a problem?

jakswan · « **Reply #3694 on:** January 02, 2021, 09:37:45 AM »

Quote from: Nearly Sane on January 01, 2021, 10:17:46 PM

Your point? That Pfizer are saying that the 3 months is an issue is surely a problem?

You asked two questions.
1. Surely this is a nonsense?
and
2. dangerous decision by the govt?

No and possibly, however;

Quote

The 4 UK Chief Medical Officers agree with the JCVI that at this stage of the pandemic prioritising the first doses of vaccine for as many people as possible on the priority list will protect the greatest number of at risk people overall in the shortest possible time and will have the greatest impact on reducing mortality, severe disease and hospitalisations and in protecting the NHS and equivalent health services.

4 Chief Medical Officers!

ProfessorDavey · « **Reply #3695 on:** January 02, 2021, 12:32:43 PM »

Quote from: jakswan on January 02, 2021, 09:37:45 AM

4 Chief Medical Officers!

The devolved nations have a Chief Medical Officer too, so there are four in total.

Aruntraveller · « **Reply #3696 on:** January 02, 2021, 05:42:14 PM »

We are also now allowing patients to receive different vaccines at first and second vaccination points. Against all medical protocols.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/01/health/coronavirus-vaccines-britain.html?

Led by donkeys.

Nearly Sane · « **Reply #3697 on:** January 02, 2021, 06:24:09 PM »

Quote from: Trentvoyager on January 02, 2021, 05:42:14 PM

We are also now allowing patients to receive different vaccines at first and second vaccination points. Against all medical protocols.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/01/health/coronavirus-vaccines-britain.html?

Led by donkeys.

I think the NYTimes doesn't quite give the full story. This is a contingency for when there has been a delay and the person is high risk. It's not a policy for general

jakswan · « **Reply #3698 on:** January 03, 2021, 09:24:10 AM »

Quote from: Trentvoyager on January 02, 2021, 05:42:14 PM

We are also now allowing patients to receive different vaccines at first and second vaccination points. Against all medical protocols.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/01/health/coronavirus-vaccines-britain.html?

Led by donkeys.

https://www.ft.com/content/afa31d12-c393-402b-9677-1fb312cfa1cf

Quote

UK health officials rejected suggestions that the guidance implied a change of tactics. One said: “The UK has not moved to a mix-and-match regimen.” The approach would be used in exceptional circumstances where the only alternative was not to complete a vaccination course, they said. In practice it would be used rarely if at all, the official added

Stranger · « **Reply #3699 on:** January 03, 2021, 11:51:31 AM »

Quote from: Nearly Sane on January 02, 2021, 06:24:09 PM

I think the NYTimes doesn't quite give the full story. This is a contingency for when there has been a delay and the person is high risk. It's not a policy for general

Indeed: Coronavirus: BMJ urges NYT to correct vaccine 'mixing' article

News:

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