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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #5125 on: June 18, 2023, 11:07:44 AM »
How can the police have investigated it and no action taken?

How can someone get an OBE for purely interrnal party, and indeed party, efforts?





https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2023/jun/17/video-emerges-of-conservative-hq-christmas-party-during-covid >:(
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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #5126 on: August 17, 2023, 09:44:07 AM »
EG.5 - soon Covid variants will look like a password

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-66502573

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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #5127 on: August 18, 2023, 11:09:29 AM »

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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #5128 on: August 18, 2023, 02:40:07 PM »
Am I 'eck-as-like. Mind you, i think I'm entitled to it free at my age, but i don't know whether I'll bother.
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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #5129 on: August 18, 2023, 02:43:40 PM »
65 and over get it free plus those at higher risk with pre-existing conditions.

Given that immunity wanes over time it would be prudent to get it, but it's your choice.
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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #5130 on: August 18, 2023, 02:56:58 PM »
Spoze I orter.
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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #5131 on: August 25, 2023, 09:04:42 AM »
Interesting story but I would like to see more about what the legal argument is as struggling to see how it can succeed.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-66582873
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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #5132 on: October 30, 2023, 07:58:12 PM »
Johnson was useless, and his advisors knew that at the time.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-67262984

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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #5133 on: October 31, 2023, 08:56:03 AM »
Johnson was useless, and his advisors knew that at the time.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-67262984

And most of the relevant ministers.
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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #5134 on: October 31, 2023, 12:19:42 PM »
'Covid was the wrong crisis for Boris Johnson, aide tells inquiry'


One wonders what would have been the right one.

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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #5135 on: October 31, 2023, 03:39:06 PM »

One wonders what would have been the right one.

When his wife finds out about his mistress?
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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #5136 on: October 31, 2023, 07:37:06 PM »
Cummings is an obvious misogynist. His 'defence' that he was rude about men would be laughable were it not for the seriousness of the issue. The attempt to wash his hands of responsibility is typical of his lying.


https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/covid-inquiry-dominic-cummings-helen-mcnamara-misogyny-stilettos/
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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #5137 on: October 31, 2023, 08:03:56 PM »
His 'explanation' of why in a message he said we shouldn't go into a national lockdown when saying that he argued for it seems like another example of his lying.

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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #5138 on: November 01, 2023, 09:56:05 AM »
Cummings is an obvious misogynist. His 'defence' that he was rude about men would be laughable were it not for the seriousness of the issue. The attempt to wash his hands of responsibility is typical of his lying.


https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/covid-inquiry-dominic-cummings-helen-mcnamara-misogyny-stilettos/

I don't want to derail the topic (much) but, it seems to me that just insulting a woman doesn't make you a misogynist. I think she was getting in his way and that's why he insulted her. It was all deeply unprofessional but so is calling cabinet ministers "feral fuck pigs".

I think he took Malcolm Tucker as a role model not as a satirical figure of fun.
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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #5139 on: November 01, 2023, 10:15:23 AM »
I don't want to derail the topic (much) but, it seems to me that just insulting a woman doesn't make you a misogynist. I think she was getting in his way and that's why he insulted her. It was all deeply unprofessional but so is calling cabinet ministers "feral fuck pigs".

I think he took Malcolm Tucker as a role model not as a satirical figure of fun.
I don't think just insulting a woman is misogynistic. Using the terms 'stiletto' and 'cunt' though are deliberate attempts to emphasise that she is a woman, and is therefore misogynist.
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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #5140 on: November 01, 2023, 10:31:40 AM »
I don't think just insulting a woman is misogynistic. Using the terms 'stiletto' and 'cunt' though are deluberate attempts to emphasise that she is a woman, and is therefore misogynist.

Whilst many people would refer to "cunt" as a gendered slur, it's most often used against men in my experience. The stiletto thing is a bit weird because, clearly, you are meant to think of stiletto heeled shoes but the metaphor makes more sense if you think of actual stilettos.

Or maybe he just didn't put any thought into it.

Anyway, I have already derailed the thread enough, so I'll stop now.
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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #5141 on: November 01, 2023, 10:36:30 AM »
Whilst many people would refer to "cunt" as a gendered slur, it's most often used against men in my experience. The stiletto thing is a bit weird because, clearly, you are meant to think of stiletto heeled shoes but the metaphor makes more sense if you think of actual stilettos.

Or maybe he just didn't put any thought into it.

Anyway, I have already derailed the thread enough, so I'll stop now.
Cumming uses words deliberately. He knew. The combination of the words and the double meaning of stiletto was entirely meant.

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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #5142 on: November 01, 2023, 10:43:58 AM »
Cumming uses words deliberately.

Does he now. I would suggest he is not always as machiavellian as you think. The trip to Barnard's Castle suggests somebody who doesn't always think things through
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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #5143 on: November 01, 2023, 10:46:11 AM »
Does he now. I would suggest he is not always as machiavellian as you think. The trip to Barnard's Castle suggests somebody who doesn't always think things through
That one can be idiot in one way does not preclude being skilled in another. His tool is words. That's a very deliberate conjunction.

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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #5144 on: November 01, 2023, 12:45:37 PM »
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/live/2023/nov/01/covid-inquiry-boris-johnson-leadership-criticism-oliver-dowden-uk-politics-latest?filterKeyEvents=false&page=with:block-65423e6a8f08af73b5ca5e94#block-65423e6a8f08af73b5ca5e94
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Women working in No 10 felt 'invisible' because of macho culture, inquiry hears

MacNamara says when she returned to No 10 in April, after her illness, she felt the macho culture had become more extreme.

O’Connor quotes from her witness statement, in which she said:

There are numerous examples of women being ignored, excluded, not listened to or talked over. It was also clear that the female perspective was being missed in advice and decision making.. 
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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #5145 on: November 01, 2023, 02:18:32 PM »
'Not a day when Covid rules followed at No 10' - colour me unsurprised. It was obvious the govt didn't believe the rules applied to it - indeed, Covid merely illustrates a general problem in politics, and this type of attitude was cross party, see Kinnock, Ferrier, Harvie.


https://uk.style.yahoo.com/covid-rules-broken-every-day-133316829.html
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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #5146 on: November 02, 2023, 05:40:15 PM »
Move over Clotho, Lachesis, and Atropos, Matt Hancock's in town


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-67297446

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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #5147 on: November 02, 2023, 06:19:58 PM »
Matt Hancock: the fuckwit par excellence

Wouldn't trust him to walk my dog (and I don't even have a dog).

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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #5148 on: November 09, 2023, 02:39:53 PM »
Tip for the FM - interpret requests for information for inquirys as wide as possible to avoid looking like you are covering up.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-67367302

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« Reply #5149 on: November 10, 2023, 09:02:49 AM »
Tip for the FM - interpret requests for information for inquirys as wide as possible to avoid looking like you are covering up.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-67367302

Yes, but what if you are covering up?
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