VE Day celebrations

[Nearly Sane]

Fascinating article on the reaction in Dublin at the time

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/ve-day-75-haughey-fitzgerald-and-that-irish-times-front-page-1.4247916?mode=amp&fbclid=IwAR01vAVk8PigeyDPOAiIvO2p5nQ8kD34ydI3xfCBCAo7Ttk_pkaahBzDCNs

[SteveH]

At the going down of the sun and in the morning
We will remember them.

Stop shouting!

[SteveH]

Lots of Union Jacks and bunting round my way.

[Nearly Sane]

Forgotten how much I like The Man Who Never Was, been watching it on BBC2


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Man_Who_Never_Was

[Nearly Sane]

Lots of Union Jacks and bunting round my way.

Nary a flag nor a bunt to be seen here.

[SteveH]

Fascinating article on the reaction in Dublin at the time

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/ve-day-75-haughey-fitzgerald-and-that-irish-times-front-page-1.4247916?mode=amp&fbclid=IwAR01vAVk8PigeyDPOAiIvO2p5nQ8kD34ydI3xfCBCAo7Ttk_pkaahBzDCNs

I believe that, though the Irish government, to its shame, was neutral, many Irishmen fought the Nazis by travelling to N. Ireland, and joining the British army there.

[Nearly Sane]

I believe that, though the Irish government, to its shame, was neutral, many Irishmen fought the Nazis by travelling to N. Ireland, and joining the British army there.

Some details here

http://www.historyireland.com/20th-century-contemporary-history/the-forgotten-volunteers-of-world-war-ii/

[jeremyp]

I believe that, though the Irish government, to its shame, was neutral, many Irishmen fought the Nazis by travelling to N. Ireland, and joining the British army there.

Why "to its shame"?

[Roses]

I have Irish and British citizenship, but think it was shameful that the Irish Republic didn't take a stand against Nazi tyranny.

[SteveH]

Why "to its shame"?

They should have played their part in the fight against Nazism and fascism. They'd've been seriously in the shit if the Axis had won. (And to think I used to be an absolute pacifist, and member of the Peace Pledge Union! Actually, I still am a near-pacifist, but WW2 was the one war that just had to be fought and won.)

[Gordon]

Nary a flag nor a bunt to be seen here.

Nor here.

[Roses]

There is a lot of flags and bunting around our way. I have put my Guernsey flag in the upstairs window where it can be seen. I didn't think it was a good idea to put my Irish flag on display.

Our eldest girl played, 'The Last Post,' on her trumpet outside her vicarage, just before 3pm this afternoon.

[Aruntraveller]

Loads of bunting round here.

My partner for reasons not known to me has insisted on greeting all or neighbours with a cheery "Guten Tag".

[Roses]

Loads of bunting round here.

My partner for reasons not known to me has insisted on greeting all or neighbours with a cheery "Guten Tag".

I suspect some people could find that offensive.

[Udayana]

I just find the whole thing weird.

If Hitler and the Nazis had won, people might now be out celebrating the downfall of the degenerate democratic race traitors that had brought Britain to the brink of ruin! 

“History is written by the victors.”  - Churchill .. or Machiavelli ...

[Nearly Sane]

One take



http://ruthwishart.scot/blog/why-ill-be-a-ve-day-dodger?fbclid=IwAR3y7u-lbrp80O0bZv3uw7Zi5oVHtwwjg-onFMV8OfDxAB1mKoAfDVqOOKk

[Udayana]

Good piece.

Also, first time I've ever heard of Peter Hitchens having sensible view on anything. "The Phoney Victory" might be worth seeking out.

[SteveH]

I suspect some people could find that offensive.

Anyone who finds it offensive jolly well deserves to be offended.

[SteveH]

Good piece.

Also, first time I've ever heard of Peter Hitchens having sensible view on anything. "The Phoney Victory" might be worth seeking out.

Whateve Hitchens believes, I believe the opposite on principle, even if until then I agreed with him.

[Robbie]

Loads of bunting round here.

My partner for reasons not known to me has insisted on greeting all or neighbours with a cheery "Guten Tag".

Something to do with bread or pastry, wheat and barley day?

[Robbie]

They should have played their part in the fight against Nazism and fascism. They'd've been seriously in the shit if the Axis had won. (And to think I used to be an absolute pacifist, and member of the Peace Pledge Union! Actually, I still am a near-pacifist, but WW2 was the one war that just had to be fought and won.)

Not long before WW2 there were plenty of fascists in England & no one batted an eyelid. The Irish probably felt the same and weren't that keen on the British given recent history. Don't be too hard on the Irish, hindsight is all very well.

[Robbie]

Whateve Hitchens believes, I believe the opposite on principle, even if until then I agreed with him.

  Glad you're clear about that.

[Nearly Sane]

Whateve Hitchens believes, I believe the opposite on principle, even if until then I agreed with him.

Was talking to him the other day, and he said he thought you were ok, and not a complete dick.

[SteveH]

Not long before WW2 there were plenty of fascists in England & no one batted an eyelid. The Irish probably felt the same and weren't that keen on the British given recent history. Don't be too hard on the Irish, hindsight is all very well.

I'm not being. I think their government should have declared war, but as I said, and NS expanded on, many Southern-Irishmen did fight, with the British Army.

[Roses]

The Channel Islands, including my home island of Guernsey, were liberated the day after VE Day, on May 9th. Sadly the large celebrations, which were planned for today won't be able to go ahead due to the virus.  Similar ones to those here in the UK will take place people's gardens instead.

I have no doubt the song Sarnia Cherie will be sung. This is the chorus in English.

Sarnia Cherie. Gem of the sea.
Home of my childhood, my heart longs for thee.
Thy voice calls me ever, forget thee I'll never,
Island of beauty. Sarnia Cherie.