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Nearly Sane

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Re: Another indy poll.....
« Reply #25 on: July 04, 2020, 09:13:59 AM »
Quote from: Anchorman on July 04, 2020, 09:07:26 AM
       


That sounds good in theory, NS, but I well remember the stramash of the 1979 Assembly referendum, and the bitterness that lingered to some extent, untill 1997 (despite the weak nature of the proposed body, which bears no comparison to the new devolved authority set up in 1999)

I think that part of the issue with that was it was put in as an amendment. I would rather that it was part of the accepted legislation on referendums. It also gave a lot of votes to the dead due to the electoral role. And winning referendums like the EU one doesn't seem to reduce the bitterness.
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Re: Another indy poll.....
« Reply #26 on: July 05, 2020, 10:14:19 AM »
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Re: Another indy poll.....
« Reply #27 on: July 05, 2020, 10:59:42 AM »
Some extraordinary numbers there.
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Re: Another indy poll.....
« Reply #28 on: July 05, 2020, 11:09:22 AM »
Quote from: Nearly Sane on July 05, 2020, 10:59:42 AM
Some extraordinary numbers there.

Not entirely surprising in my mind, given Nicola Sturgeon's much better handling of the pandemic than some other leaders.
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Re: Another indy poll.....
« Reply #29 on: July 06, 2020, 09:14:31 AM »
And in the weird world of Scottish politics, this is the latest weirdness - the polling for a non existent list only party led by Alec Salmond that he's not said he has any interest in leading

https://wingsoverscotland.com/the-cat-and-all-the-pigeons/
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Re: Another indy poll.....
« Reply #30 on: July 06, 2020, 09:33:32 AM »
Quote from: Nearly Sane on July 06, 2020, 09:14:31 AM
And in the weird world of Scottish politics, this is the latest weirdness - the polling for a non existent list only party led by Alec Salmond that he's not said he has any interest in leading

https://wingsoverscotland.com/the-cat-and-all-the-pigeons/
   


No fan of 'Eck, but from what I can gather, he rejoined SNP as an ordinary member last month. Unless they've changed the rules since last I was a member, they don't allow members who belong to more than one party.
Anyhoo, this new party on the block seems to be aiming to disrupt the secondary list votes, and get more independence minded members in Holyrood.
What it WILL do is simply muddy the waters, and probably go the same way as Sheridan's SSP.
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Re: Another indy poll.....
« Reply #31 on: July 31, 2020, 01:13:32 PM »
And now this. The ongoing 'phony' war in the SNP is only going to get worse, particularly with the Salmond inquiry, for which the choice of candidate in Edinburgh Central was a proxy


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-53607198
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Re: Another indy poll.....
« Reply #32 on: July 31, 2020, 03:56:13 PM »
In the wake of the Brexit fiasco, I think it would be madness for any of the home nations to even consider independence at this point. The complexities of dissolving a union that has existed for hundreds of years will make Brexit seem like a picnic.
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Re: Another indy poll.....
« Reply #33 on: July 31, 2020, 04:16:56 PM »
Quote from: jeremyp on July 31, 2020, 03:56:13 PM
In the wake of the Brexit fiasco, I think it would be madness for any of the home nations to even consider independence at this point. The complexities of dissolving a union that has existed for hundreds of years will make Brexit seem like a picnic.
   


The majority of the Scottish nation voted to remain.
Westminster continues to ignore that - their peril and the hopeful destruction of their union.
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Re: Another indy poll.....
« Reply #34 on: July 31, 2020, 04:40:16 PM »
Quote from: jeremyp on July 31, 2020, 03:56:13 PM
In the wake of the Brexit fiasco, I think it would be madness for any of the home nations to even consider independence at this point. The complexities of dissolving a union that has existed for hundreds of years will make Brexit seem like a picnic.

How else can we detach ourselves from the vagaries (majority support for Brexit/Tories) of the electorate in England, given the relative numbers involved, where recent elections demonstrate that the political outlook in Scotland no longer favours unionist parties. 
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Re: Another indy poll.....
« Reply #35 on: July 31, 2020, 04:42:44 PM »
To be honest, the referendum/ independence debate isn't the question I  raised - rather the issue that the main independence party is about to rip itself apart.
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Re: Another indy poll.....
« Reply #36 on: August 01, 2020, 07:07:18 AM »
Quote from: jeremyp on July 31, 2020, 03:56:13 PM
The complexities of dissolving a union ....

I suppose that it depends on which union best serves the interests of your nation.
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Re: Another indy poll.....
« Reply #37 on: August 13, 2020, 08:55:03 AM »
 Latest youguv poll confirms the others; Independence at 53%, SNP at 57%.
https://www.yes.scot/fresh-poll-shows-majority-support-for-scottish-independence-key-takeaways/
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Re: Another indy poll.....
« Reply #38 on: August 15, 2020, 02:39:49 PM »
I hadn't heard of that before.
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Re: Another indy poll.....
« Reply #39 on: March 24, 2021, 03:54:47 PM »
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Re: Another indy poll.....
« Reply #40 on: March 24, 2021, 03:58:27 PM »
Worth noting that the polls are from 1st and 8th March
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Re: Another indy poll.....
« Reply #41 on: May 02, 2021, 11:15:26 AM »
UK (Scotland), Panelbase poll:

Should Scotland be an independent country?

Yes: 52% (+3)
No: 48% (-3)

+/- vs. 21-26 April

Fieldwork: 28-30 April 2021
Sample size: 1,096

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Re: Another indy poll.....
« Reply #42 on: December 01, 2021, 03:16:41 PM »
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Re: Another indy poll.....
« Reply #43 on: December 01, 2021, 03:41:39 PM »
Quote from: Nearly Sane on December 01, 2021, 03:16:41 PM
55 - 45 in favour of independence

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/scottish-ipsos-mori-government-stv-news-scottish-parliament-b1967720.html
   


Not that I'm not chuffed, but I suspect things are a bit closer at the moment.
The campaign's on hold, after all.
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Re: Another indy poll.....
« Reply #44 on: December 01, 2021, 04:43:36 PM »
Quote from: Anchorman on December 01, 2021, 03:41:39 PM
   


Not that I'm not chuffed, but I suspect things are a bit closer at the moment.
The campaign's on hold, after all.
This is 'at the moment'
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