Author Topic: The Kalam-ing presence of Doctor Lane Craig.  (Read 10245 times)

Walt Zingmatilder

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Re: The Kalam-ing presence of Doctor Lane Craig.
« Reply #100 on: August 03, 2020, 10:16:07 PM »
Apart from this being an all but meaningless expression of your faith, it is actually rather funny. We evolved to be over sensitive to agency where there is none - hyperactive agency detection - due to the fact that false positives are far less dangerous than false negatives. It doesn't much matter if you think a storm is some god being angry, whereas failing to think that a predator wants to eat you could easily be fatal.
Do you see God as a predator who wants to eat you? That would be really interesting.
Is necessity and contingency about agency? I don't know? Nobody seems to be angry or hungry in contingency and necessity.

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Re: The Kalam-ing presence of Doctor Lane Craig.
« Reply #101 on: August 03, 2020, 10:31:41 PM »
Do you see God as a predator who wants to eat you? That would be really interesting.
Is necessity and contingency about agency? I don't know? Nobody seems to be angry or hungry in contingency and necessity.
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Walt Zingmatilder

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Re: The Kalam-ing presence of Doctor Lane Craig.
« Reply #102 on: August 03, 2020, 11:13:14 PM »
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Re: The Kalam-ing presence of Doctor Lane Craig.
« Reply #103 on: August 04, 2020, 07:53:10 AM »
Do you see God as a predator who wants to eat you? That would be really interesting.

Is this supposed to be a serious point?

Is necessity and contingency about agency?

How can we tell as you still haven't explained how nayhting can possibly be necessary? Presumably your "God" is about agency but you still haven't defined that either.
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Re: The Kalam-ing presence of Doctor Lane Craig.
« Reply #104 on: August 04, 2020, 08:30:32 AM »
I think we are evolved to recognise the necessary entity and funnily those who have a reluctance to the necessary entity like their reluctance to God provide evidence of that. They seem to instinctively know they are one and the same and that explains the lengths people go to to avoid.

I think we are evolved to recognise the necessary entity cause and effect and funnily those who have a reluctance to the necessary entity infinite regress like their reluctance to God reality provide evidence of that. They seem to instinctively know they are one and the same and that explains the lengths people go to to avoid...

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Walt Zingmatilder

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Re: The Kalam-ing presence of Doctor Lane Craig.
« Reply #105 on: August 04, 2020, 09:05:02 AM »
I think we are evolved to recognise the necessary entity cause and effect and funnily those who have a reluctance to the necessary entity infinite regress like their reluctance to God reality provide evidence of that. They seem to instinctively know they are one and the same and that explains the lengths people go to to avoid...

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Mathematical reality is entitled to as many infinite regressions as it can find, even an infinite number.

In physical reality. Infinite regresses in heirchies of dependency produce nothing. You tried a thought experiment yourself a  few weeks back I seem to recall.

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Re: The Kalam-ing presence of Doctor Lane Craig.
« Reply #106 on: August 04, 2020, 10:29:23 AM »
Mathematical reality is entitled to as many infinite regressions as it can find, even an infinite number.

In physical reality. Infinite regresses in heirchies of dependency produce nothing. You tried a thought experiment yourself a  few weeks back I seem to recall.

I don't recall doing that, perhaps it was someone else - I recall a discussion around the idea of infinity and how you can't try to perform arithmetic with it and expect the results to stand up?

I've still yet to see a convincing explanation of why an infinite regress is not a viable model.

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