Football 2020 - 2021

[ProfessorDavey]

And no 0-0 matches so far in the Premiership

Nice one NS - you jinxed it

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/54504242

[Nearly Sane]

Nice one NS - you jinxed it

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/54504242

the power

[Nearly Sane]

Journalist apologises to Ansu Fati

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/54641455

[Nearly Sane]

Going back to the discussion about whether the delay to the Euros  had affected Belgium's chances, one question is that of Eden Hazard. If it had gone ahead when it was scheduled, it's likely that he would have been unfit. The question is will he be fit when it is held.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/54623127

[ProfessorDavey]

Going back to the discussion about whether the delay to the Euros  had affected Belgium's chances, one question is that of Eden Hazard. If it had gone ahead when it was scheduled, it's likely that he would have been unfit. The question is will he be fit when it is held.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/54623127

Yup

I think for any tournament there are a number of teams potentially good enough to win, but to actually win you need a bunch of things to align in your favour, including lack of injuries for key players, players hitting form at the right time (and that includes longer-range career performance peak) plus a good old fashioned dollop of good luck.

Actually Belgium could easily have won the world cup in 2018 - they were pretty unlikely to lose by a single goal margin to France in the semi-finals (which, let's face it contained the best two teams left in the tournament) and had they made it through to the final I think they'd likely have beaten either Croatia or England (had they made it through).

[Nearly Sane]

The goal Roofe scored for Rangers against Standard Liege tonight is one of the best I have ever seen. Will put up video whem there is an accessible good version.

[ProfessorDavey]

The goal Roofe scored for Rangers against Standard Liege tonight is one of the best I have ever seen. Will put up video whem there is an accessible good version.

Nah - crap, not interested in someone scoring from by the touchline in their own half, I want to see them scoring from their own penalty area

[Nearly Sane]

Nah - crap, not interested in someone scoring from by the touchline in their own half, I want to see them scoring from their own penalty area

To be honest, I'm usually fairly blasé about goals from the half way line, it's the bits before combined with that that make this as extraordinary.

[ProfessorDavey]

To be honest, I'm usually fairly blasé about goals from the half way line, it's the bits before combined with that that make this as extraordinary.

I only saw the actual goal, without any build-up in the briefest of snippets on the news last night.

[Nearly Sane]

I only saw the actual goal, without any build-up in the briefest of snippets on the news last night.

This is the best on Youtube that I can find. The very start doesn't show him winning the ball in the tackle but it makes clear that it was not just a shot but contained a dribble past three players, add on the tackle and it's just extraordinary.


https://youtu.be/O7x7Z2roJ7s

[ProfessorDavey]

This is the best on Youtube that I can find. The very start doesn't show him winning the ball in the tackle but it makes clear that it was not just a shot but contained a dribble past three players, add on the tackle and it's just extraordinary.


https://youtu.be/O7x7Z2roJ7s

Nice

[jeremyp]

The rule allows them to intervene (that this only happens rarely is a red herring and does alter their authority to intervene). So they had the authority under the rules to intervene - they chose not to. Exactly as I said. The implication of your comment was that they were not allowed to intervene under the rules - that isn't correct.

No the implication of my post is that they only rarely intervene. It didn't say they are not allowed.

By the way, a rule doesn't have to be written down in a rule book to be a rule.

[ProfessorDavey]

No the implication of my post is that they only rarely intervene. It didn't say they are not allowed.

In which case I think you are perhaps agreeing with my view that they were allowed to intervene (permitted within the rules) and that this incident was of sufficient severity to warrant that rare intervention.

By the way, a rule doesn't have to be written down in a rule book to be a rule.

Can you explain what you mean. Interpretation of the rules or laws may not be written down, but I believe the actual rules or laws themselves are, by definition, written down.

[Nearly Sane]

Points to Southampton's twitter account - posted a picture of the Premier League with Southampton on top after their win over Newcastle with the comment STOP THE COUNT!

[ProfessorDavey]

Points to Southampton's twitter account - posted a picture of the Premier League with Southampton on top after their win over Newcastle with the comment STOP THE COUNT!

[jeremyp]

Can you explain what you mean. Interpretation of the rules or laws may not be written down, but I believe the actual rules or laws themselves are, by definition, written down.

There's a rule in our family that you do not open the Christmas presents until after church, everybody has sat down with a glass of champagne (or non alcoholic beverage). Also, the youngest person distributes the presents. This is a rule that has been in force for at least 50 years and has never been written down - until just now.

Rules do not have to be written down.

[jeremyp]

Points to Southampton's twitter account - posted a picture of the Premier League with Southampton on top after their win over Newcastle with the comment STOP THE COUNT!

Count all the legal matches. Don't count the illegal matches.

[ProfessorDavey]

There's a rule in our family that you do not open the Christmas presents until after church, everybody has sat down with a glass of champagne (or non alcoholic beverage). Also, the youngest person distributes the presents. This is a rule that has been in force for at least 50 years and has never been written down - until just now.

Rules do not have to be written down.

We aren't talking about your Christmas traditions JP, we are talking about the rules and laws of professional football. Give me an example of a rule or law in professional football (not the interpretation of rules or laws) that isn't written down.

And regardless what you call a 'rule' in your family isn't a rule at all, merely a tradition. What sanction arises if the second youngest member of the family starts distributing presents? Are they banned for the next three Christmasses!

[Nearly Sane]

Given the staggered start to matches, it's possible that there could be 4 different clubs to have been at the top of the Premier League this weekend.

[jeremyp]

We aren't talking about your Christmas traditions JP, we are talking about the rules and laws of professional football.

No we are not. I said there is a rule. It didn't say it was part of the official rules of professional football. You can think of it as an informal convention if you like.

And regardless what you call a 'rule' in your family isn't a rule at all, merely a tradition.

You say tradition, I say rule and we adhere to it strictly.

[ProfessorDavey]

No we are not. I said there is a rule. It didn't say it was part of the official rules of professional football. You can think of it as an informal convention if you like.

Given that the discussion is on a thread called 'Football 2020-2021' and was about the rules associated with retrospective action for could play in a football match I think it was pretty clear that we were talking about the rules (or laws) of football.

So again please can you give me an example of a rule or law in professional football (not the interpretation of rules or laws) that isn't written down.

[jeremyp]

Given that the discussion is on a thread called 'Football 2020-2021' and was about the rules associated with retrospective action for could play in a football match I think it was pretty clear that we were talking about the rules (or laws) of football.

And it was pretty clear that the rule I mentioned was not part of the official rules in question but more of a convention (or tradition, if you like).

So again please can you give me an example of a rule or law in professional football (not the interpretation of rules or laws) that isn't written down.

The one we were discussing.

Whether you call the rule I mentioned a rule, a convention,  tradition or whatever, it doesn't alter the point I was making or make me wrong. I suggest you start addressing the arguments instead of fixating on petty points about labelling.

[ProfessorDavey]

The one we were discussing.

It is written down in the FA rules on discipline - specifically within the Disciplinary Regulations in the FA Handbook (which is their rule book).

[Nearly Sane]

This is a nonsense


https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/54855596

[ProfessorDavey]

This is a nonsense


https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/54855596

I agree - it is crazy and there seem to be so many sensible ways around it, the easiest being to make the guide lines thicker are require there to be no overlap (therefore providing benefit of the doubt to the attacker). Alternatively make the point of reference the body centre of each player, e.g. central position of the body core at waist level.