Pidge,
That isn't what is being claimed by Christianity. Any empirical measurement of Jesus would not have yielded any scientific data concerning his divinity.
Wrong again. The Bible says that “God” appeared in human-like form on multlple occasions. That’s what Christianity claims. And if this god did that, then in principle at least those appearances were measurable events. Just pickling a
different characteristic of the divine and asserting that to be non-measurable is just more evasion.
The basis of flitting in and out of materiality is that you have chosen to so extend the described properties of the Leprechaun.
Again, even if I had so what? My faith belief = my rules. As it happens though, I do have authority for it. Wiki tells us quite clearly that leprechauns are both “supernatural” (ie, not naturalistic)
and able to appear as small Irishmen (ie, naturalistic).
In any case where Jesus passed the humanity test Leprechauns have failed any kind of test and the evidence is that people have added to the story and properties over the years. Something you yourself have a part in by making Leprechauns divine.
Irrelevant nonsense. Stick to the argument you continue to lose.
Leprechauns though are Diminutive supernatural irishmen with beards and coats and hats. You have been polishing their diminutivity and Irishanity out of the picture while conflating the gamut of supernaturality.
And human-like manifestations of a god have eyes and ears and arms and legs. How many times to you have to be told that your god and leprechauns are
both immaterial when they want to be and material when they want to be? They’re
different objects of faith claims that happen to be able to perform the
same trick. That no more implies that leprechauns are “divine” though than ducks laying eggs implies they must be crocodiles. Different entities, same trick.
Conflating the gamut of supernaturality. A fallacy ascribing all and any supernatural ability to any supernatural entity.
Incoherent gibberish.
He has talked about his faith in science.
No he hasn’t. He talked about his “faith” in science – you’re just doctoring out the quotation marks again. I have “faith” that my car will start in the morning, by which I mean that I think it likely to happen based on previous attempts, the reliability of the brand etc. I have no faith (religious sense) in my car starting though because I think it has supernatural properties.
Your bollocks about practical confidence in science is faith in science.
Stop lying.
His notion that if you have a testable hypothesis which makes a prediction you have scientific evidence is wrong.
And not true. He said no such thing. Stop lying.
You seem to have shown yourself up a pair of committed dillitantes.....if not dillahunty's Ha Ha Ha.
Illiterate lying. You really should try to stop lying – maybe start with a once-a-year “Vlad not lying” day or something?
Also…
When everything before has collapsed in a lying, irrational heap you cannot have an “also”…
…you cannot have it that the universe is infinitely old and therefore doesn't need a creator one moment and then argue that proposing an infinite universe isn't proposing an effect without a cause.
More lying. Try reading what’s actually proposed, not what you would like it to be.
Meaning of Supernatural from Oxford Dixtionaries
supernatural
[ˌsuːpəˈnatʃ(ə)r(ə)l]
ADJECTIVE
supernatural (adjective)
(of a manifestation or event) attributed to some force beyond scientific understanding or the laws of nature.
"a supernatural being"
Powered by Oxford Dictionaries · Bing Translator
But as every mindless, brain dead, dishonest, evasive, cringe-inducing effort you’ve ever made here implies the second meaning (“beyond…the laws of nature”) if you now want to resile from that to the first meaning, ie “OK, maybe my Christianity is built on various naturalistic phenomena after all that so far at least science hasn’t been able to explain” (“beyond scientific understanding”) that would be a pretty remarkable change of tack would it not?
Not that you will ever,
ever answer any question of course, but why not just tell us what you do mean by “supernatural”? Is it “outside the laws of nature”, or “something the current state of science cannot explain”?
What’s stopping you?
