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Nearly Sane

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Captain Tom Moore dead
« on: February 02, 2021, 04:12:05 PM »
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Re: Captain Tom Moore dead
« Reply #1 on: February 02, 2021, 04:22:40 PM »
Very sad, :( but not a surprise.
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Re: Captain Tom Moore dead
« Reply #2 on: February 02, 2021, 04:23:40 PM »
When I heard he was in hospital, I thought that was probably going to be it.

If the last year of my life is one tenth as remarkable as Captain Sir Tom's, I will die a happy man.
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Re: Captain Tom Moore dead
« Reply #3 on: February 02, 2021, 07:14:03 PM »
Watching Channel 4 news and 12 minutes on Tom Moore. I know it's symbolic but it does feel over the top.
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Re: Captain Tom Moore dead
« Reply #4 on: February 02, 2021, 11:18:45 PM »
Quote from: jeremyp on February 02, 2021, 04:23:40 PM

When I heard he was in hospital, I thought that was probably going to be it.

If the last year of my life is one-tenth as remarkable as Captain Sir Tom's, I will die a happy man.


Ain't that the truth, Buddy! A remarkable man!

R I P Captain Moore.

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Re: Captain Tom Moore dead
« Reply #5 on: February 03, 2021, 09:59:26 AM »
Am I the only one who finds the coverage to be a bit OTT, rather cloying and more than a tad jingoistic (the rapidly-dispensed knighthood being an example) - o.k. it is a nice story occurring in bleak times, but that is all it is.

Given that various government minsters have now jumped on the obituary bandwagon it is galling that in their praise of him (which is merited) they haven't also added the observation that if the NHS were better funded then gestures like this, however well-intentioned, shouldn't be required.
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Re: Captain Tom Moore dead
« Reply #6 on: February 03, 2021, 10:03:23 AM »
Quote from: Gordon on February 03, 2021, 09:59:26 AM
Am I the only one who finds the coverage to be a bit OTT, rather cloying and more than a tad jingoistic (the rapidly-dispensed knighthood being an example) - o.k. it is a nice story occurring in bleak times, but that is all it is.

Given that various government minsters have now jumped on the obituary bandwagon it is galling that in their praise of him (which is merited) they haven't also added the observation that if the NHS were better funded then gestures like this, however well-intentioned, shouldn't be required.
No, you're not the only one - I think the knighthood was OTT.
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Re: Captain Tom Moore dead
« Reply #7 on: February 03, 2021, 10:10:40 AM »
Quote from: Nye Scuppertea on February 03, 2021, 10:03:23 AM
No, you're not the only one - I think the knighthood was OTT.
I find it difficult to evaluate whether anything in the flummery that is the honours system is OTT
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Re: Captain Tom Moore dead
« Reply #8 on: February 03, 2021, 10:34:03 AM »
I am in favour of the honours system and think Captain SIR Tom Moore deserved his knighthood.
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Re: Captain Tom Moore dead
« Reply #9 on: February 03, 2021, 10:43:47 AM »
Quote from: Littleroses on February 03, 2021, 10:34:03 AM
I am in favour of the honours system and think Captain SIR Tom Moore deserved his knighthood.
You would. ::) ::)
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Re: Captain Tom Moore dead
« Reply #10 on: February 03, 2021, 10:45:57 AM »
Quote from: Littleroses on February 03, 2021, 10:34:03 AM
I am in favour of the honours system and think Captain SIR Tom Moore deserved his knighthood.
Bread and circuses, but mainly circuses.
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Re: Captain Tom Moore dead
« Reply #11 on: February 03, 2021, 10:48:24 AM »
Eh? All the flummery masks the real issues...

How is it that a 100 year old catches covid19? Aren't we all in lockdown in order to protect the old and vulnerable getting ill and dying in hospital?   
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Re: Captain Tom Moore dead
« Reply #12 on: February 03, 2021, 10:53:37 AM »
Quote from: Udayana on February 03, 2021, 10:48:24 AM
Eh? All the flummery masks the real issues...

How is it that a 100 year old catches covid19? Aren't we all in lockdown in order to protect the old and vulnerable getting ill and dying in hospital?
Yes, but the system isn't perfect.
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Re: Captain Tom Moore dead
« Reply #13 on: February 03, 2021, 11:01:04 AM »
Quote from: Udayana on February 03, 2021, 10:48:24 AM
Eh? All the flummery masks the real issues...

How is it that a 100 year old catches covid19? Aren't we all in lockdown in order to protect the old and vulnerable getting ill and dying in hospital?
With an exemption for caring, which given it appears he had pneumonia for a month, would have been needed. The big question is surely did British Airways kill him with kindness?
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Re: Captain Tom Moore dead
« Reply #14 on: February 03, 2021, 11:12:01 AM »
Quote from: Nearly Sane on February 03, 2021, 10:45:57 AM
Bread and circuses, but mainly circuses.


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Re: Captain Tom Moore dead
« Reply #15 on: February 03, 2021, 11:15:04 AM »
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Re: Captain Tom Moore dead
« Reply #16 on: February 03, 2021, 11:16:28 AM »
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Re: Captain Tom Moore dead
« Reply #17 on: February 03, 2021, 11:19:19 AM »
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Re: Captain Tom Moore dead
« Reply #18 on: February 03, 2021, 11:53:37 AM »
Quote from: Nye Scuppertea on February 03, 2021, 10:03:23 AM

No, you're not the only one - I think the knighthood was OTT.


Sarcasm by the shovel-full!

As always!
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Re: Captain Tom Moore dead
« Reply #19 on: February 03, 2021, 11:55:29 AM »
Quote from: Gordon on February 03, 2021, 09:59:26 AM

Am I the only one who finds the coverage to be a bit OTT, rather cloying and more than a tad jingoistic (the rapidly-dispensed knighthood being an example) - o.k. it is a nice story occurring in bleak times, but that is all it is.

Given that various government ministers have now jumped on the obituary bandwagon it is galling that in their praise of him (which is merited) they haven't also added the observation that if the NHS were better funded then gestures like this, however well-intentioned, shouldn't be required.


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Re: Captain Tom Moore dead
« Reply #20 on: February 03, 2021, 12:15:19 PM »
Quote from: Owlswing on February 03, 2021, 11:53:37 AM
Sarcasm by the shovel-full!

As always!

Steve isn't being sarcastic though: he is merely agreeing with sentiments I expressed in my post (that he was replying to), and in that post I wasn't being sarcastic.
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Re: Captain Tom Moore dead
« Reply #21 on: February 03, 2021, 12:21:56 PM »
Quote from: Owlswing on February 03, 2021, 11:53:37 AM
Sarcasm by the shovel-full!

As always!

That's not sarcasm. It is a valid viewpoint to take. You may disagree but that doesn't give you the right to change the dictionary definition of sarcasm.
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Re: Captain Tom Moore dead
« Reply #22 on: February 03, 2021, 12:36:44 PM »
Very sad news – by all accounts he was a lovely man whose kind gesture caught the wind in a remarkable way.

As for the honours system though, whether or not you agree with the principle it seems to me to be deeply compromised in practice. There are for example consulting firms who claim to be able to move you up the ladder – presumable for a fee. Here for example is something from the website of the first one I clicked on:

“We will save you valuable time and significantly increase your chances of success. The average success rate is estimated to be just 10% (1 in 10). Our success rate is over 65% (nearly 2 in 3).”

If there’s any truth in that, one wonders how many recipients have got them because they happened to pay fees rather than just on merit. Worse still, such access devalues the currency I think for those who genuinely deserve them. It all feels a bit unethical to me.

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Re: Captain Tom Moore dead
« Reply #23 on: February 03, 2021, 02:26:51 PM »
Quote from: Nye Scuppertea on February 03, 2021, 10:03:23 AM
No, you're not the only one - I think the knighthood was OTT.
I too think the knighthood was OTT, although I think it was a nice and appropriate thing for him to do to meet the Queen.
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Re: Captain Tom Moore dead
« Reply #24 on: February 03, 2021, 03:05:52 PM »
Clapping is cheap. Circus comes to town at 6pm


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