Should he stay or should he go?

[Anchorman]

In some ways an excellent result - over the next few months the Tory party will, hopefully, continue to implode to the extent of making themselves unelectable.

I do hope that some rumours in circulation, albeit already denied, turn out to be true: that Johnson might call a snap GE rather than wait for his party to dispose of him, in the hope that the electorate in some parts of the UK will save his skin - at the very least it would be a chance to get the Tories out of Scotland, and hopefully enough of the electorate elsewhere in the UK would turn against them too.

Might be worth buying in some extra popcorn!

   

Anything which removes that upooper crust Jack from any levers of power is fine by me.

[Aruntraveller]

"Fixed penalty notices: 126 Backbones: 148,'

HIGNFY/ Gary Linekar

[SusanDoris]

But what are they going to vote FOR?

[Aruntraveller]

But what are they going to vote FOR?

Leave it out SD, we know you are secretly in love with Boris, but really you are getting as embarrassing as Nad the Mad.

They'll scurry around and undermine Johnson (not that he needs any help) and eventually he'll topple and then they'll choose from a number of front runners, Hunt & Tugendhat both seem keen, so we'll probably end up with one of the no-marks from the cabinet. Maybe Dominic (I didn't understand the importance of the channel crossing) Raab, or Pritti (send the opposition to Rwanda) Patel or the old favourite Rishi (non-dom) Sunak.

Truly the choices are endless in their ability to match the non-talent who is the current incumbent. So no need to fret SD. The current level of incompetence will be maintained.

[Walt Zingmatilder]

Boris Johnson is now the political equipment of what I believe is called a turtleshead. I.e a piece of half excreted faeces.

[Nearly Sane]

But what are they going to vote FOR?

Not having a PM who broke the law and lied to Parliament about it.

[SusanDoris]

The constant implication that I do not think through, clearly, practically and dispassionately the ins and outs, possibilities and outcomes could you know, be just a tad annoying if I was the kind of person who wasted time on such unnecessary comments!I have never blindly followed any cause or trend etc and have no intention of starting that now!

[Dicky Underpants]

Leave it out SD, we know you are secretly in love with Boris, but really you are getting as embarrassing as Nad the Mad.

They'll scurry around and undermine Johnson (not that he needs any help) and eventually he'll topple and then they'll choose from a number of front runners, Hunt & Tugendhat both seem keen, so we'll probably end up with one of the no-marks from the cabinet. Maybe Dominic (I didn't understand the importance of the channel crossing) Raab, or Pritti (send the opposition to Rwanda) Patel or the old favourite Rishi (non-dom) Sunak.

Truly the choices are endless in their ability to match the non-talent who is the current incumbent. So no need to fret SD. The current level of incompetence will be maintained.

But with Nadine Dorries at the helm, at least British cultural life will be successfully maintained. /sarcasm, for the Sheldon Coopers out there.

[Udayana]

...
They'll scurry around and undermine Johnson (not that he needs any help) and eventually he'll topple and then they'll choose from a number of front runners, Hunt & Tugendhat both seem keen, so we'll probably end up with one of the no-marks from the cabinet. Maybe Dominic (I didn't understand the importance of the channel crossing) Raab, or Pritti (send the opposition to Rwanda) Patel or the old favourite Rishi (non-dom) Sunak.
...

From Johnson's pov. I think the next step is to hunker in and fortify the parapets. The existing cabinet seem well subdued and can be moved out and replaced if showing any backbone. He has already put anyone showing signs of both integrity and competence in the backbenches or out of the commons completely.

I don't think he is moving on anytime soon. Meanwhile, the country will lurch from crisis to crisis.
 

[Aruntraveller]

Interesting analysis by Peter Oborne:

https://www.middleeasteye.net/opinion/uk-boris-johnson-confidence-vote-billionaires-useful-idiot?

If you don't want to read the whole thing the meat of the article is this:

The billionaire class put their man, Boris Johnson, in Downing Street three years ago. He suits them well because he does what they want. Johnson is at the apex of a system of government that hands out contracts, supplies favours, slashes regulation, attacks the rule of law, reduces the rights of working people, and favours the marketplace above the state.

The brilliance of Boris Johnson is that he does all of this while pretending to be on the side of ordinary working people. That’s why the super-rich love Boris, the billionaire's useful idiot.

[Gordon]

John Crace hits the spot, as usual.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/jun/07/operation-save-big-dog-ramps-up-the-day-after-the-boris-music-died

[Aruntraveller]

Pritti Patel reserves 148 seats on the next flight to Rwanda.

HIGNFY

[jeremyp]

And yet, and yet ... ... there is still no -one stepping forward to try to be the next PM.

It's something of a poisoned chalice at the moment. Would you want to be running a country that has been crippled by Brexit and COVID and is thus experiencing record inflation and is likely about to go into recession?

[jeremyp]

The brilliance of Boris Johnson is that he does all of this while pretending to be on the side of ordinary working people.

Are there any ordinary working people who still buy that one?

[Aruntraveller]

Are there any ordinary working people who still buy that one?

Unfortunately going by a vox pop I saw on the BBC yesterday from Redcar the answer to that is sadly a yes.

Some people really do seem to be falling for the "got the big decisions on the pandemic and Brexit right" line that is pushed at every opportunity, despite all the evidence to the contrary.

[ad_orientem]

https://twitter.com/BBCNewsnight/status/1072990467598385152?t=0Jh8jeiHRVfHG-umRXCqkQ&s=19

According to Rees-Mogg this is good for Boris, but worse for May when she had less votes against her. Never understood this kind of loyalty. Bojo probably looks down on him because he's not a real toff! Both idiots though.

[Nearly Sane]

'We don't need no stinking ethics'

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-61819747

[SteveH]

'We don't need no stinking ethics'

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-61819747

Johnson thinks ethics is the county to the North of Kent.

[jeremyp]

Well we know what the people of Honiton, Tiverton and Wakefield think the answer to the title question is.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-61920000

The Conservative Party chairman resigned at 5.35am. Chris Mason thinks that is a sign of desperation. I think he was just looking for an excuse to get out.

[Harrowby Hall]

I have long thought that Alexander Johnson really wants to have been Prime Minister. This brings with it a problem - to have been Prime Minister one actually has to be Prime Minister for a period of time.

He is fortunate in that his term in No 10 will turn out to be one of the most memorable and the many descendents of his numerous offspring will be able to read of their ancestor in their history books. Unfortunately for them, however, it may be with shame at his likely portrayal as the worst prime minister in British history.

[Udayana]

Well we know what the people of Honiton, Tiverton and Wakefield think the answer to the title question is.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-61920000

The Conservative Party chairman resigned at 5.35am. Chris Mason thinks that is a sign of desperation. I think he was just looking for an excuse to get out.

Dowden has been spineless throughout and his resignation letter continues that ...

"somebody must take responsibility" means what? He is taking responsibility? Johnson should take responsibility and resign? He should spell it out and admit he was wrong to support this pathetic pretence of a government.
 

[Udayana]

I have long thought that Alexander Johnson really wants to have been Prime Minister. This brings with it a problem - to have been Prime Minister one actually has to be Prime Minister for a period of time.

He is fortunate in that his term in No 10 will turn out to be one of the most memorable and the many descendents of his numerous offspring will be able to read of their ancestor in their history books. Unfortunately for them, however, it may be with shame at his likely portrayal as the worst prime minister in British history.

Yeah, well, then he is stuck and the  country is stuck with him as the Tories don't have anyone capable of persuading the country that their incompetent government and stupid policies are worth voting for.
 

[Udayana]

Actually, it is quiet worrying that despite all, Starmer does not seem to be making policies and taking stands that are explainable and graspable by the general public. 

[SusanDoris]

Actually, it is quiet worrying that despite all, Starmer does not seem to be making policies and taking stands that are explainable and graspable by the general public.

I think I'd call it more like 'desperately worrying that there doesn't seem to be anyone  anywhere who inspires.

[Anchorman]

I have long thought that Alexander Johnson really wants to have been Prime Minister. This brings with it a problem - to have been Prime Minister one actually has to be Prime Minister for a period of time.

He is fortunate in that his term in No 10 will turn out to be one of the most memorable and the many descendents of his numerous offspring will be able to read of their ancestor in their history books. Unfortunately for them, however, it may be with shame at his likely portrayal as the worst prime minister in British history.

     


And with any luck, the last british prime minister.