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Nearly Sane

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Re: Rwanda and asylum seekers
« Reply #75 on: December 21, 2023, 09:10:11 PM »
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Re: Rwanda and asylum seekers
« Reply #76 on: December 26, 2023, 07:28:08 PM »
'Labour considers processing asylum seekers overseas' to be honest I thought this was already under consideration just not for being decided if possible in order to remain on ths fence.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-67822631
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« Reply #77 on: January 06, 2024, 06:20:09 AM »
Did Sunak have doubts? Well if he did it would st least show he has some functioning intelligence, but then no integrity. To be fair, I didn't think he was stupid.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-67899189
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« Reply #78 on: January 10, 2024, 09:50:21 AM »

The fag end of the parliament now just hosting the warring sections of the Tory Party fighting for custody of its pox ridden soul after they lose the election.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-67930783
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« Reply #79 on: January 16, 2024, 06:09:15 PM »
Well, the best advice I can come up with is have a good night's sleep and then dance on the Tories carnage. You'll need a lot of energy  to do that.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/live/2024/jan/16/rwanda-bill-rishi-sunak-latest-politics-news-updates-live?filterKeyEvents=false&page=with:block-65a6c3ca8f081086499888a5#block-65a6c3ca8f081086499888a5
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« Reply #80 on: January 16, 2024, 07:13:39 PM »
Maybe it's just me - but when I read comments from several Tories to the effect that 'stopping the small boats' is the primary issue that vexes the electorate: I just wonder who on earth they are talking to. I'd have thought that the cost of living a bigger issue.

 
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« Reply #81 on: January 17, 2024, 09:13:05 AM »
The Tory party fighting over which is the empty thoughtless pose likely to lose the fewest of them seats, and after the deluge put which self interested little grouping in the best place.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-68001727
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« Reply #82 on: January 18, 2024, 01:28:23 PM »
Risk! reprimanded.  https://www.theguardian.com/politics/live/2024/jan/18/rishi-sunak-press-conference-rwanda-bill-conservatives-labour-fujitsu-post-office-horizon-uk-politics-latest?filterKeyEvents=false&page=with:block-65a910c98f08b7e48791ed5b#block-65a910c98f08b7e48791ed5b
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Sunak reprimanded by UK's statistics watchdog over misleading claim about asylum claims backlog being cleared
But, there are very few asylum seekers who have applied in 2024 and loads more applied in 2023...Why does this lying idiot want more maths teachers?
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« Reply #83 on: January 20, 2024, 08:56:58 PM »
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« Reply #84 on: January 27, 2024, 06:55:50 PM »
So the UK granted asylum to people living in Rwanda whilst arguing it was safe to send people there.

As a plot point for "The Tourist" this might just have worked, but in real life, never.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/jan/27/revealed-uk-granted-asylum-to-rwandan-refugees-while-arguing-country-was-safe
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« Reply #85 on: January 27, 2024, 07:08:15 PM »
Quote from: Aruntraveller on January 27, 2024, 06:55:50 PM
So the UK granted asylum to people living in Rwanda whilst arguing it was safe to send people there.

As a plot point for "The Tourist" this might just have worked, but in real life, never.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/jan/27/revealed-uk-granted-asylum-to-rwandan-refugees-while-arguing-country-was-safe
There are those who would see it not being safe as a plus point in the plan
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« Reply #86 on: February 12, 2024, 12:31:10 PM »
The attachment to the Rwanda plan is about face saving not logic, not achieving a goal.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-68270451
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Re: Rwanda and asylum seekers
« Reply #87 on: February 12, 2024, 12:34:36 PM »
Quote from: Nearly Sane on February 12, 2024, 12:31:10 PM
The attachment to the Rwanda plan is about face saving not logic, not achieving a goal.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-68270451

It's about achieving the goal of Tory re-election - or at least the avoidance of complete obliteration.
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« Reply #88 on: March 04, 2024, 06:37:46 PM »
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« Reply #89 on: March 23, 2024, 11:44:55 AM »
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« Reply #90 on: March 24, 2024, 09:45:56 AM »
Quote from: Aruntraveller on March 23, 2024, 11:44:55 AM
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2024/mar/22/rwanda-trips-uk-ministers-officials-cost-over-400000

Fuck me. Have they not heard of Ryanair?
Ryanair doesn't seem to operate flights to Rwanda or even anywhere in Africa.
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« Reply #91 on: March 24, 2024, 09:56:15 AM »
Quote from: jeremyp on March 24, 2024, 09:45:56 AM
Ryanair doesn't seem to operate flights to Rwanda or even anywhere in Africa.

Oh dear. Yes, I know. It was just the principle of cheaper flights being available.

You probably could have chartered one of their jets cheaper than the amount the UK Gov forked out.
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« Reply #92 on: March 25, 2024, 08:48:40 AM »
Quote from: Aruntraveller on March 24, 2024, 09:56:15 AM
Oh dear. Yes, I know. It was just the principle of cheaper flights being available.

You probably could have chartered one of their jets cheaper than the amount the UK Gov forked out.

But that's not just the flights. It's flights, accommodation and other expenses (security etc) for James Notsocleverly and whatever entourage a government minister needs.

Don't get me wrong - the whole fiasco is a ridiculous waste of money and a gross injustice - but not using cheap flights is a drop in the ocean.
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« Reply #93 on: April 04, 2024, 08:40:46 AM »
Sunak courting those who have no real understanding of what the ECHR is, and Britain's role in its creation.

https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/sunak-european-convention-of-human-rights-court_uk_660d9569e4b083254eaaaa45
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« Reply #94 on: April 04, 2024, 11:15:57 AM »
And then some of the press deliberately conflated the ECHR with the EU and added extra pressure onto Sunak by turning it into a vow, which it wasn't if you read what he said (although I'm sure he's quite happy to have it taken that way):

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« Reply #95 on: April 04, 2024, 11:20:39 AM »
Quote from: Aruntraveller on April 04, 2024, 11:15:57 AM
And then some of the press deliberately conflated the ECHR with the EU and added extra pressure onto Sunak by turning it into a vow, which it wasn't if you read what he said (although I'm sure he's quite happy to have it taken that way):
The whole 'foreign court' stuff though that Sunak uses is part of that deliberate conflation.
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« Reply #96 on: April 04, 2024, 12:19:49 PM »
Suspect that he is just flag-waving for the benefit of the lunatic fringe in his own party - he knows fine well that the ECHR is an element in the Good Friday agreement, and even if he was naive enough to think he could bulldoze anything involving NI, he also knows that he doesn't have the time left to tackle anything that complex. 
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« Reply #97 on: April 22, 2024, 10:10:43 AM »
Poor little minister feels patronised. Does he want to have blankie?


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« Reply #98 on: April 28, 2024, 10:47:00 AM »
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« Reply #99 on: May 10, 2024, 08:04:48 AM »
Border Security Command - that sounds well hard. Will they get Liam Neeson to be in charge?


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