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Re: The next PM...
« Reply #400 on: October 20, 2022, 02:14:35 PM »
At some point does Bobby Ewing come out the shower and we find that Brexit was all a dream?

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Re: The next PM...
« Reply #401 on: October 20, 2022, 02:21:36 PM »
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Re: The next PM...
« Reply #402 on: October 20, 2022, 02:31:47 PM »
Somewhere in the BBC Strictly Come Dancing office, someone is phoning 10 Downing St to ask 'we were wondering if Liz is available September 2023?'
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Re: The next PM...
« Reply #404 on: October 20, 2022, 02:55:46 PM »
Johnson coming back?

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Re: The next PM...
« Reply #405 on: October 20, 2022, 03:00:52 PM »
Johnson coming back?

He's fourth favourite in the betting.
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Re: The next PM...
« Reply #406 on: October 20, 2022, 03:02:16 PM »
At some point does Bobby Ewing come out the shower and we find that Brexit was all a dreamnightmare?
FTFY
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Re: The next PM...
« Reply #407 on: October 20, 2022, 03:03:00 PM »
He's fourth favourite in the betting.
But it's going to be an online vote of Tory members apparently. Watch his odds shorten.



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Re: The next PM...
« Reply #408 on: October 20, 2022, 03:09:06 PM »
FTFY
Surely the other way for 52% of those that voted?

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Re: The next PM...
« Reply #409 on: October 20, 2022, 03:53:31 PM »
I'm just wondering if we've ever had a period between two general elections before with three different prime ministers.

Also, have we ever had a year before with five chancellors?
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Re: The next PM...
« Reply #410 on: October 20, 2022, 04:14:54 PM »
And the flip-flopping over last night's vote.

First it was declared to be a confidence vote.

Then presumably when the government was concerned they might lose it was declared not to be a confidence vote, just 10 minutes before the vote.

Then when they won, they retrospectively declared it to be a confidence vote again.

And if this is the case I gather the party will need to remove the whip from those that didn't vote the government's way - which would include the two previous tory PMs!! And the guy who was Truss' chancellor until a week ago.
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She had 300 men,
She marched them up to the top of the bill
And Marched them down again.
And when they were up they were up.
And when they were down they were down.
And when they were only half way up they shoved each other again.
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Re: The next PM...
« Reply #411 on: October 20, 2022, 05:56:37 PM »
I'm just wondering if we've ever had a period between two general elections before with three different prime ministers.

Also, have we ever had a year before with five chancellors?
Quite likely only two, albeit one will have had a brief 6 week absence while Truss was PM.

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Re: The next PM...
« Reply #412 on: October 20, 2022, 08:44:52 PM »
"for, as long as but a hundred of us remain alive, never will we on any conditions be brought under English rule. It is in truth not for glory, nor riches, nor honours that we are fighting, but for freedom - for that alone, which no honest man gives up but with life itself."

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Re: The next PM...
« Reply #413 on: October 20, 2022, 11:00:22 PM »
I'm just wondering if we've ever had a period between two general elections before with three different prime ministers.

Also, have we ever had a year before with five chancellors?
Shortest-ever prime-ministerial term, shortest-ever home secretarial term in modern times, and shortest-ever Chancellorship apart from Iain Mcleod in 1970, but he was a special case because he unexpectedly snuffed it. What a dismal set of records!
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Re: The next PM...
« Reply #414 on: October 20, 2022, 11:01:48 PM »
Quite likely only two, albeit one will have had a brief 6 week absence while Truss was PM.
I find it hard to believe they'd let Johnson back.
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Re: The next PM...
« Reply #415 on: October 20, 2022, 11:19:35 PM »
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Re: The next PM...
« Reply #416 on: October 20, 2022, 11:24:25 PM »
Har-de-har.
Ben Wallace looks like the safest pair of hands out of this lot, which is why I cynically hope he doesn't get the job: what we need is yet another numpty, to ensure a Labour landslide when the election finally arrives.
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Re: The next PM...
« Reply #417 on: October 20, 2022, 11:25:58 PM »
I find it hard to believe they'd let Johnson back.
Given politics recently, I wouldn't be surprised if someone suggested they should get Trump to do the job.

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Re: The next PM...
« Reply #418 on: October 20, 2022, 11:34:16 PM »
Har-de-har.
Ben Wallace looks like the safest pair of hands out of this lot, which is why I cynically hope he doesn't get the job: what we need is yet another numpty, to ensure a Labour landslide when the election finally arrives.
Isn't that just wanting to fuck the country up (even further) for purely party political reasons?

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« Reply #419 on: October 20, 2022, 11:42:58 PM »
Isn't that just wanting to fuck the country up (even further) for purely party political reasons?
Fuck-up in the shortish term to get a decent government, versus fuckish-up in the long term. I did say it was cynical, but a degree of cynicism is necessary in politics.
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Re: The next PM...
« Reply #420 on: October 20, 2022, 11:48:20 PM »
Fuck-up in the shortish term to get a decent government, versus fuckish-up in the long term. I did say it was cynical, but a degree of cynicism is necessary in politics.
It's 2 years till the next election. In the long term we are all dead, and if you have an idiot in charge in the short term then, given our existing problems, some people will die because of that. It's not cynical, it's tribal.
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Re: The next PM...
« Reply #421 on: October 21, 2022, 12:37:36 AM »
I've never voted Tory. I can see no circumstances in which I ever will but I hope they manage to find the greatest PM ever in this vote because given the fuck up of the country they have made, if it isn't the greatest PM of all time, it's going to be horrendous.

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Re: The next PM...
« Reply #422 on: October 21, 2022, 02:35:57 AM »
Soul???

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Re: The next PM...
« Reply #423 on: October 21, 2022, 07:31:26 AM »
The idea that Boris the Liar, who is still being investigated, could return as PM is so perverse that it would probably happen, since it seems that if get gets enough MP support to be in the final two, so that members get a vote, they are likely to vote for him - so yet again an small cohort of middle-aged and reasonably well-off people living largely in the south of England make the choice.

Perhaps it would hasten the hammering in of the final nail in the coffin of the Tory party in its current form and hasten a GE.

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Re: The next PM...
« Reply #424 on: October 21, 2022, 08:53:59 AM »
The idea that Boris the Liar, who is still being investigated, could return as PM is so perverse that it would probably happen, since it seems that if get gets enough MP support to be in the final two, so that members get a vote, they are likely to vote for him - so yet again an small cohort of middle-aged and reasonably well-off people living largely in the south of England make the choice.

Perhaps it would hasten the hammering in of the final nail in the coffin of the Tory party in its current form and hasten a GE.
Can't see how any outcome hastens a GE since even with a bounce , the Tories would be 20 points behind.