The next PM...

[Maeght]

Johnson not standing

Thank goodness.

[SteveH]

Johnson not standing

[jeremyp]

I don't like people being ridiculously rich, when they could give much of their wealth away to charities. No-one needs £750m, and there aren't many ways of becoming that rich that are morally acceptable.

Well, in comparison to most of the World, probably everybody posting on this forum is "ridiculously rich".

I think this hatred of people purely because they have got lots of money has really got to stop. It's not healthy.

[Aruntraveller]

Well, in comparison to most of the World, probably everybody posting on this forum is "ridiculously rich".

I think this hatred of people purely because they have got lots of money has really got to stop. It's not healthy.

Perhaps it would be best to address the hatred toward people who have little or no money. At least money insulates you from some harm.

At the heart of this is not one person, but an attitude displayed time and again by the Conservative party and identified thus by one Dominic Cummings:

“People think, and by the way I think most people are right: ‘The Tory party is run by people who basically don’t care about people like me.’
“That is what most people in the country have thought about the Tory party for decades. I know a lot of Tory MPs and I am sad to say the public is basically correct. Tory MPs largely do not care about these poorer people. They don’t care about the NHS. And the public has kind of cottoned on to that.”


This is, of course, a liar talking about other liars predominantly, but it is a conclusion I, and I dare say many others arrived at a long time ago.

[Nearly Sane]

Not often I say this, indeed not sure I ever have before, but points to Isabel Oakeshott for this


https://archive.ph/sdiIq

[SteveH]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-politics-63363876 Mystic Mogg future-gazing.

[Gordon]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-politics-63363876 Mystic Mogg future-gazing.

Of the various people I hope the new PM junks - it is Mogg and that cretin Coffey that I'll especially enjoy seeing the back of (along with Jimmy Dimly, of course).

[jeremyp]

Perhaps it would be best to address the hatred toward people who have little or no money. At least money insulates you from some harm.

Quite.

At the heart of this is not one person, but an attitude displayed time and again by the Conservative party and identified thus by one Dominic Cummings:

“People think, and by the way I think most people are right: ‘The Tory party is run by people who basically don’t care about people like me.’
“That is what most people in the country have thought about the Tory party for decades. I know a lot of Tory MPs and I am sad to say the public is basically correct. Tory MPs largely do not care about these poorer people. They don’t care about the NHS. And the public has kind of cottoned on to that.”


This is, of course, a liar talking about other liars predominantly, but it is a conclusion I, and I dare say many others arrived at a long time ago.

I would argue they do care about the NHS. They care because they look at the US healthcare industry with envious eyes and the vast profits available to healthcare companies and insurers there and they wish the same same opportunities were available here. The main reason why healthcare here is less lucrative is the NHS.

[jeremyp]

Not often I say this, indeed not sure I ever have before, but points to Isabel Oakeshott for this


https://archive.ph/sdiIq

I think she's overreaching by claiming that Sunak supporters engineered the financial meltdown that did for Kamikwasi. Points for predicting Sunak or Hunt would win in the end though.

The high tax and spend Remain-leaning Establishment blob has won.

If that's what Sunak wants, I'm happier today than a week ago.

[Outrider]

I think she's overreaching by claiming that Sunak supporters engineered the financial meltdown that did for Kamikwasi. Points for predicting Sunak or Hunt would win in the end though.

I particularly like the bit where 'no longer Chancellor' Sunak (and his ill-defined mob) can engineer market weakness, whilst the actual Chancellor KamiKwasi and the actual (honestly!) Prime Minister Truss were powerless to prevent it... and this somehow reflects badly on Sunak?

Desperately trying to engineer a behind-the-scenes plot in the hopes that we won't recognise gob-smacking incompetence.

O.

[Maeght]

Of the various people I hope the new PM junks - it is Mogg and that cretin Coffey that I'll especially enjoy seeing the back of (along with Jimmy Dimly, of course).

Rees-Mogg needs taking down a peg or two (or three or ....).

[Udayana]

 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-politics-63376995

 Wow! They must have spent the last few days replacing Sunak with a robot - just in time to replace the malfunctioning Truss version!

 

[Walt Zingmatilder]

Cometh the hour, cometh another Dud.

[SteveH]

What are the odds on Wide-boy Johnson ending up as Chancer of the Exchequer?

[Gordon]

What are the odds on Wide-boy Johnson ending up as Chancer of the Exchequer?

I'd say 5000/1 or longer - nae chance of that happening.

[Nearly Sane]

What are the odds on Wide-boy Johnson ending up as Chancer of the Exchequer?

They'll keep Hunt as moving him would look odd. I doubt they would countenance Johnson as CofE, nor would he want it as it needs detail work.

I suspect that Johnson wouldn't mind a move to the Lords but in the short term they won't want a by election. The most obvious role is Foreign Secretary which he's already done, badly, but would allow him to wibble on and play the statesman. 

[Maeght]

What are the odds on Wide-boy Johnson ending up as Chancer of the Exchequer?

No chance I'd say. Not suited for it at all. Think Hunt will stay in post.

[SteveH]

You all missed the joke. Wide-boy Johnson, Chancer of the Exchequer.

[Maeght]

You all missed the joke. Wide-boy Johnson, Chancer of the Exchequer.

Very good.

[Harrowby Hall]

What are the odds on Wide-boy Johnson ending up as Chancer of the Exchequer?

I don't think that Alexander Johnson will serve in any executive role. he still has the possible consequences of his own inadequate behaviour hanging over him. It is possible that he may even be ejected from the Commons.

[Nearly Sane]

You all missed the joke. Wide-boy Johnson, Chancer of the Exchequer.

Didn't think it was worth commenting on.

[Anchorman]

Someone pointed out that Sunak's the 57th prime minister.
I think I prefer the  alphabet sphagetti. More variety.

[SqueakyVoice]

Someone pointed out that Sunak's the 57th prime minister.

So far he started in a Private school, went to a banking management, moved into the Richmond constituency and married a very well off wife.
He's worked so hard, he's moved from riches to riches.

[jeremyp]

What are the odds on Wide-boy Johnson ending up as Chancer of the Exchequer?

He won't be in the government.

[SqueakyVoice]

Right now our country is facing a profound economic crisis.

So said the former Chancellor of the Exchequer.

She was not wrong to want to improve growth in this country. It is a noble aim.

According to the former Chancellor of the Exchequer, who couldn't grow the economy quicker than inflation.

...

But some mistakes were made.

According  to the former CofE.

... There might be some sort of theme here...