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Re: Sturgeon to resign as FM
« Reply #675 on: April 09, 2023, 12:35:42 PM »

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Re: Sturgeon to resign as FM
« Reply #676 on: April 09, 2023, 04:39:24 PM »
In what way?

It was a joke. When people start making jokes about some tragedy and it falls flat, "too soon" is often the way the situation is diffused. It's often used ironically, if the original tragedy happened a long time ago e.g. two millennia.
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Re: Sturgeon to resign as FM
« Reply #677 on: April 09, 2023, 04:53:35 PM »
It was a joke. When people start making jokes about some tragedy and it falls flat, "too soon" is often the way the situation is diffused. It's often used ironically, if the original tragedy happened a long time ago e.g. two millennia.

D'oh

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Re: Sturgeon to resign as FM
« Reply #678 on: April 10, 2023, 04:55:01 PM »
It's an interesting take to say there needs to be a rerun of the leadership election but only one result is acceptable.


https://archive.is/KtYL3

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Re: Sturgeon to resign as FM
« Reply #679 on: April 11, 2023, 08:25:22 AM »
It's an interesting take to say there needs to be a rerun of the leadership election but only one result is acceptable.


https://archive.is/KtYL3

I don't see where it says only one result would be acceptable. It does seem to say Yousaf is tainted by the scandal and it implies the election was rigged to get him in.

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Re: Sturgeon to resign as FM
« Reply #680 on: April 11, 2023, 08:46:55 AM »
I don't see where it says only one result would be acceptable. It does seem to say Yousaf is tainted by the scandal and it implies the election was rigged to get him in.

Last line is 'Only Kate Forbes as leader and Ash Regan as her deputy can begin to restore that trust.'

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Re: Sturgeon to resign as FM
« Reply #681 on: April 11, 2023, 11:54:12 AM »
Last line is 'Only Kate Forbes as leader and Ash Regan as her deputy can begin to restore that trust.'

Apologies. Missed that.
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Re: Sturgeon to resign as FM
« Reply #682 on: April 11, 2023, 12:01:31 PM »
Here's a probably impossible question to answer:

What is the current sentiment in Scotland wrt the SNP?

From down here in Bristol, it looks like the people responsible for the shenanigans are mostly gone and the SNP is still the only credible party that wants independence. I don't see their vote collapsing completely.

Can they just tough it out? 
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Re: Sturgeon to resign as FM
« Reply #683 on: April 11, 2023, 12:45:36 PM »
Here's a probably impossible question to answer:

What is the current sentiment in Scotland wrt the SNP?

From down here in Bristol, it looks like the people responsible for the shenanigans are mostly gone and the SNP is still the only credible party that wants independence. I don't see their vote collapsing completely.

Can they just tough it out?

The vote won't collapse but... It doesn't have to for there to be issues. The next big vote will be the UK General.Election. I think it likely they will lose substantial number of seats to Labour. An ongoing scandal will affect that. If there is some tactical voting they could be the second biggest party in seat terms.


We don't have a scheduled Scottish Parliament election till 2026 - way too far away to even think of. The issue in the Scottish Parliament is the SNP's internal battles. Will be very interested in what happens with the Deposit Recovery Scheme - not significant in itself but a proxy battle as regards Green involvement in govt. Also of course what happens on the Gender Recognition Reform Bill - if that goes to court and the SNP Govt lose - could be a bloodbath.


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Re: Sturgeon to resign as FM
« Reply #684 on: April 11, 2023, 02:03:09 PM »

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Re: Sturgeon to resign as FM
« Reply #685 on: April 11, 2023, 06:55:48 PM »
« Last Edit: April 11, 2023, 06:59:09 PM by Nearly Sane »

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Re: Sturgeon to resign as FM
« Reply #686 on: April 11, 2023, 10:25:55 PM »
Interesting article from John Curtice on the possible move of independence supporters to Labour.

https://whatscotlandthinks.org/2023/04/a-broken-link-support-for-independence-and-the-snp/

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Re: Sturgeon to resign as FM
« Reply #687 on: April 12, 2023, 08:09:34 AM »
And the resignation of the auditors was kept from the NEC


https://archive.vn/jMAuB

And they are only just now looking to appoint new auditors.
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Re: Sturgeon to resign as FM
« Reply #688 on: April 12, 2023, 09:04:00 AM »
And they are only just now looking to appoint new auditors.
Don't think that's clear. Yousaf has said it's now a priority but the worry is that they have being trying unsuccessfully for 6 months.

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Re: Sturgeon to resign as FM
« Reply #692 on: April 13, 2023, 12:01:16 PM »
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Re: Sturgeon to resign as FM
« Reply #693 on: April 14, 2023, 12:17:29 PM »
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-65264713

It seems there is a lot about the SNP that its new leader didn't find out about until after he had won. I wonder if he's having second thoughts.
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Re: Sturgeon to resign as FM
« Reply #695 on: April 17, 2023, 10:10:27 AM »
''Yoons'' ha ha ha ha

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Re: Sturgeon to resign as FM
« Reply #696 on: April 18, 2023, 09:09:48 AM »

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Re: Sturgeon to resign as FM
« Reply #697 on: April 18, 2023, 02:01:30 PM »
Humza Yousaf: I don't believe the SNP is operating criminally


Hmmm.....


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Re: Sturgeon to resign as FM
« Reply #698 on: April 18, 2023, 02:34:29 PM »
Humza Yousaf: I don't believe the SNP is operating criminally


Hmmm.....


https://archive.vn/ehb4z
Hmm - and there was me thinking he couldn't comment on an active investigation, certainly not opining that someone is guilty or not guilty.

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Re: Sturgeon to resign as FM
« Reply #699 on: April 18, 2023, 02:54:45 PM »
Hmm - and there was me thinking he couldn't comment on an active investigation, certainly not opining that someone is guilty or not guilty.
I think you mean 'shouldn't' not 'couldn't'