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Re: Sturgeon to resign as FM
« Reply #726 on: April 24, 2023, 11:45:42 AM »
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Re: Sturgeon to resign as FM
« Reply #727 on: April 25, 2023, 10:03:00 AM »
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Re: Sturgeon to resign as FM
« Reply #728 on: April 25, 2023, 02:22:58 PM »

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Re: Sturgeon to resign as FM
« Reply #729 on: April 25, 2023, 05:45:06 PM »

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Re: Sturgeon to resign as FM
« Reply #730 on: April 26, 2023, 08:35:14 AM »
Everything's going fine


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Hmmm. If they haven’t started the audit yet, providing audited accounts by the end of May is going to be somewhat tricky.
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Re: Sturgeon to resign as FM
« Reply #731 on: April 26, 2023, 08:57:12 AM »

“I didn't pass that information on because that wouldn't be my responsibility to do so. There is a leadership team and they have dedicated responsibility. Your question is insulting quite frankly. How dare you. How dare you." - Blackford


Just wow!

https://archive.ph/2023.04.26-051813/https://www.heraldscotland.com/politics/23480703.snp-not-tell-commons-finance-team-auditorss-exit-months/

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Re: Sturgeon to resign as FM
« Reply #732 on: April 26, 2023, 01:24:14 PM »
“I didn't pass that information on because that wouldn't be my responsibility to do so. There is a leadership team and they have dedicated responsibility. Your question is insulting quite frankly. How dare you. How dare you." - Blackford


Just wow!

https://archive.ph/2023.04.26-051813/https://www.heraldscotland.com/politics/23480703.snp-not-tell-commons-finance-team-auditorss-exit-months/

I'm not really sure what to think about that. I'd be inclined to believe Blackford were it not for the fact that he launched that astonishing attack on the journalist for asking the question.
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Re: Sturgeon to resign as FM
« Reply #733 on: April 26, 2023, 01:28:08 PM »
I'm not really sure what to think about that. I'd be inclined to believe Blackford were it not for the fact that he launched that astonishing attack on the journalist for asking the question.

I think that's the point here. I could argue whose responsibility it is but it's at least a point for discussion. Blackford comes across as deranged.

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Re: Sturgeon to resign as FM
« Reply #734 on: April 26, 2023, 05:28:21 PM »
I think that's the point here. I could argue whose responsibility it is but it's at least a point for discussion. Blackford comes across as deranged.

Whether it was his responsibility or not he could have, and should have, reported it to the parliamentary authorities and passed the information on to Flynn.
Ah, but I was so much older then ... I'm younger than that now

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Re: Sturgeon to resign as FM
« Reply #735 on: April 26, 2023, 05:33:35 PM »
Whether it was his responsibility or not he could have, and should have, reported it to the parliamentary authorities and passed the information on to Flynn.
Take that up with jeremyp who is 'inclined to believe Blackford'

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Re: Sturgeon to resign as FM
« Reply #736 on: April 27, 2023, 07:36:13 AM »
Take that up with jeremyp who is 'inclined to believe Blackford'
I actually said I’m not inclined to believe him. But hey ho, let’s twist my words.
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Re: Sturgeon to resign as FM
« Reply #737 on: April 27, 2023, 07:39:38 AM »
Whether it was his responsibility or not he could have, and should have, reported it to the parliamentary authorities and passed the information on to Flynn.
I disagree on the last part. Flynn was informed soon after he was elected. Before he was elected, there was no reason to tell him. Well, there was no legal duty to tell him. I think better transparency would have meant he and all the other SNP MPs should have been informed.
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Re: Sturgeon to resign as FM
« Reply #738 on: April 27, 2023, 08:37:02 AM »
I actually said I’m not inclined to believe him. But hey ho, let’s twist my words.
Yeah, apologies, in seeking to point Udayana in your direction, I overemphasised the initial part of your post and created the wrong impression.

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Re: Sturgeon to resign as FM
« Reply #739 on: April 27, 2023, 09:08:58 AM »
Bingo
No Jeremy, The Tories are shiter than shite.

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Re: Sturgeon to resign as FM
« Reply #740 on: April 27, 2023, 12:53:33 PM »
No Jeremy, The Tories are shiter than shite.

It makes no difference to me if I'm in a pool of shite that is 10 metres deep or 100 metres deep. I can't touch the bottom either way.
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Re: Sturgeon to resign as FM
« Reply #741 on: April 27, 2023, 01:02:14 PM »
Yeah, apologies, in seeking to point Udayana in your direction, I overemphasised the initial part of your post and created the wrong impression.
Thanks.

Anyway, let me clarify. If Ian Blackford had simply said he had no obligation to tell the HoC finance people about the lack of auditors and no obligation to tell his successor that the SNP had no auditors, Id have taken his word for it. However, the way he attacked the journalist for even asking the question makes me think that he is not telling the whole truth. He thinks he was wrong to keep it secret. He obviously couldn't tell just his successor before his successor was elected, but he could have told the whole Westminster party.
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Re: Sturgeon to resign as FM
« Reply #742 on: April 27, 2023, 01:06:00 PM »
Thanks.

Anyway, let me clarify. If Ian Blackford had simply said he had no obligation to tell the HoC finance people about the lack of auditors and no obligation to tell his successor that the SNP had no auditors, Id have taken his word for it. However, the way he attacked the journalist for even asking the question makes me think that he is not telling the whole truth. He thinks he was wrong to keep it secret. He obviously couldn't tell just his successor before his successor was elected, but he could have told the whole Westminster party.
My reaction to the attack on the journalist is not so much that it makes me less likely to believe him but that it makes no difference if he is telling the truth or not. It's ridiculous behaviour and he should be censured imo.

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Re: Sturgeon to resign as FM
« Reply #743 on: April 27, 2023, 01:47:20 PM »
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Re: Sturgeon to resign as FM
« Reply #744 on: April 29, 2023, 02:39:53 PM »

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Re: Sturgeon to resign as FM
« Reply #745 on: April 30, 2023, 11:14:36 AM »
Nothing particularly new here but still a reasonable summation of where we are. Labour in Scotland shouldn't be feeling complacent.


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Re: Sturgeon to resign as FM
« Reply #746 on: April 30, 2023, 11:55:17 AM »
I think that for as long as Labour/Starmer avoid acknowledging that Brexit was a disaster, because they don't want to upset previous Labour 'red wall' voters who were pro-Brexit and so voted Tory last time, then they'll face an uphill struggle here in Scotland.

Perhaps Labour/Starmer will yet find the nerve to say that Brexit was bollocks since, from some stuff I've read, some 'Leave' voters are beginning to realise that they were sold a lie.

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2023/apr/30/on-brexit-will-no-one-in-the-major-parties-admit-that-britain-has-blundered

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Re: Sturgeon to resign as FM
« Reply #747 on: April 30, 2023, 12:06:15 PM »
I think that for as long as Labour/Starmer avoid acknowledging that Brexit was a disaster, because they don't want to upset previous Labour 'red wall' voters who were pro-Brexit and so voted Tory last time, then they'll face an uphill struggle here in Scotland.

Perhaps Labour/Starmer will yet find the nerve to say that Brexit was bollocks since, from some stuff I've read, some 'Leave' voters are beginning to realise that they were sold a lie.

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2023/apr/30/on-brexit-will-no-one-in-the-major-parties-admit-that-britain-has-blundered
My feeling is that the whole intent is to follow the 1997 election playbook, and try just not to be the Tories, yet not say anything that really differentiates. Doing that in Scotland is harder as they have to also not be the SNP. I think to overtake the SNP they need to be something, as well as not something.

Dear dog, Scottish politics is now Sartrean.

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Re: Sturgeon to resign as FM
« Reply #748 on: May 03, 2023, 09:44:06 AM »

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Re: Sturgeon to resign as FM
« Reply #749 on: May 03, 2023, 11:39:33 AM »
I think that for as long as Labour/Starmer avoid acknowledging that Brexit was a disaster, because they don't want to upset previous Labour 'red wall' voters who were pro-Brexit and so voted Tory last time, then they'll face an uphill struggle here in Scotland.

Perhaps Labour/Starmer will yet find the nerve to say that Brexit was bollocks since, from some stuff I've read, some 'Leave' voters are beginning to realise that they were sold a lie.

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2023/apr/30/on-brexit-will-no-one-in-the-major-parties-admit-that-britain-has-blundered
Not sure what Scotland did to avert Brexit though given that Blackford and Swinson let Johnson have his election.